the all aussie dribble thread!

[MCW]

Burnt my way through ironbark with a 'sharp' drop saw making feet for my bed. That is freak'n hard, like our dry Puriri (Vitex lucens). Might try to make a few wedges. Not sure if wood wedges will feel the same when hit with an axe head. The plastic ones have a different feel the more they are loaded up. Makes it pretty easy to feel what's happening upstairs.

What's the advantage of aluminium over plastic?

Aluminum wedges drive better and are more positive. Decent ones aren't cheap though. A 10" Stihl alloy is near AUD$50.

I'll see what I can find as far as videos go but the saw won't have any chance of hitting a wedge if done properly. This is out of a falling manual I have...

 

[deye223]

i got a couple a dozen of these, hard head wedges they have a steel insert in the head and are the ducks nuts

 

[deye223]

on another note has anyone got one of these they wan't to sell and can post to me

thanks

 

[WidowMaker_1]

on another note has anyone got one of these they wan't to sell and can post to me

thanks

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what do you need another for ? His and hers ?

 

[deye223]

what do you need another for ? His and hers ?

??? i don't have one............... but i need one

 

[KiwiBro]

Aluminum wedges drive better and are more positive. Decent ones aren't cheap though. A 10" Stihl alloy is near AUD$50.

I'll see what I can find as far as videos go but the saw won't have any chance of hitting a wedge if done properly. This is out of a falling manual I have...

thanks Matt.

 

[460cixy]

on another note has anyone got one of these they wan't to sell and can post to me

thanks

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Buy an arcade game did you? Spent plenty time on one of those as a kid at the local takeaway

 

[windthrown]

I think I might need more wedges... maybe...

 

[windthrown]

In a throwback to the GB bar manufacturing location issue, Gregg of Left Coast Supplies (previously of Bailey's in Labonville, CA) posted this on AS recently. It seems that they are now split between making stuff in Oz and China, depending on the product. People here are saying that "Made in Australia" is stamped on the new GB ProTop bars they are getting, whereas the GB ArborPro bars are just stamped "Australia".

Long bars (44" +), Double Ended Bars, Titanium CN40, and Pro Top bars have always been manufactured in Australia.
GB Forestry Australia (GBF) purchased the stock and some of the manufacturing equipment from the Australian facility of GB Group in 2011. GBF also purchased the exclusive rights to distribute GB products in Australia and New Zealand. GBF manufactures all the 3/4" pitch harvester bars it sells as well as the Lucas Mills bars and other extra-long and special purpose bars.

GB Machinery (Hangzhou), owned by Tom Beerens has a factory in China where it produces hardnose chainsaw bars, replacement nose chainsaw bars, .404 harvester bars, sprockets and chains. Tom Beerens lives full-time in China and also does a lot of sourcing of other products for his customers. Tom’s biggest customers are .404 harvester bar customers in Germany, Finland, Sweden, Russia and Canada.
Regards
Gregg

 

[MCW]

Not having a crack at Gregg but I think he should ask for an all expenses paid trip to the Australian manufacturing plant then post some photos. I think he'll find he's having the wool pulled over his eyes as no Australian GB dealers are receiving bars with "Made In Australia" on them. It would be in Gregg's best interest to prove the Australian made part and I honestly hope he can as nobody in Australia seems to be able to.

 

[bennn*e]

Like those pictures I posted while back. Even the protops that have made in Australia on the sleeve don't have made in Australia on the bar just Australia

Compared I a NOS power tech bar

 

[MCW]

A few photos of a current GB production line in Australia shouldn't be too bloody hard I wouldn't have thought. Tom Beerens was surfing AS regularly a few years back.

 

[bennn*e]

From speaking to my bloke at GB they're still running of stock from there previous location of protop bars. I had some 6ft bars custom made for a client and it sounds like they came from oz. my 6ft long bar has the same printing on it like the new bars, just Australia on the end I didn't pay attention to the sleeve. I may still have it in the shed

 

[MCW]

After seeing the drop in quality with some of their recent Ti bars I'm wondering whether they are Made In Australia or just painted here

 

[KiwiBro]

After seeing the drop in quality with some of their recent Ti bars I'm wondering whether they are Made In Australia or just painted here

But the paint is Made in Australia



from local and imported ingredients

 

[windthrown]

A few photos of a current GB production line in Australia shouldn't be too bloody hard I wouldn't have thought. Tom Beerens was surfing AS regularly a few years back.

As for what is made in Oz or not, that is what the Grande Dog is saying, and selling here in the states. Manufacturing laws here in the US are pretty strict about what can be imported and labeled "Made in" anywhere. If the package says, 'made in Oz,' the bar has gott'a be made in Oz, not just the label, or the paint. Otherwise everything sold here at WalMart would be made someplace other than in China, and we would have #4 SN China Stihl saws with Made in Germany starter cover badges, with only the badges being made in Germany.

 

[windthrown]

As for wanting production line photo proof, I have been trying to get into a Carlton plant here in Milwaukie, OR to see what they are making in there. I cannot get anywhere on that with anyone at Carlton or Blount. I doubt they would let me in there with a camera either. I think they are paranoid about OSHA and the unions, as well as Chinese, Canadian and other competitors.

 

[ausneil 1]

Aluminum wedges drive better and are more positive. Decent ones aren't cheap though. A 10" Stihl alloy is near AUD$50.

I'll see what I can find as far as videos go but the saw won't have any chance of hitting a wedge if done properly. This is out of a falling manual I have...

And $50.00 well spent, Stihl wedges have been the only decent alloy wedge on the market, all the rest are too brittle and you can nick it and not destroy your chain.
However after many years of complaining I believe Husqvarna has a simular wedge on offer now with the same alloy mix as the Stihl wedge.
I have Stihl wedges that are 6inches long and look horrible but still work.
Your so correct with your directional off line falling on small trees Matt, that's the only way to do it without mechanical help.

 

[windthrown]

Note that I am not a lawyer and not an expert in international commerce or Australian law. But from what I read, in Oz, to carry an unqualified ‘made in Australia' label and ensure compliance with the Trade Practices Act 1974, a product must be:

• Substantially transformed in the country represented;
• A minimum of 50 per cent of production costs must be incurred in the country represented

So one would conclude that at least 50% of the cost of making 'Made in Australia' GB bars happens in Oz. Now that may mean that if the bars are being stamped out in China for 2 cents each, and then sent to Oz for grinding, riveting, painting and packaging for another 2 cents, they can be labeled as 'Made in Oz.' But I do not see how that would be any cheaper or better for GB than just stamping, grinding, riveting, painting and packaging them in China like they do with their hard nosed bars. Note that if the bars were made exclusively in Oz, they could be labeled "Product of Australia" or "Australian Made".

To be imported to the US, all products must have the country of origin stamped on them or their labels. So they just have to have the word 'Australia' stamped on them if they are imported here from Oz. Seemingly they can be made in China and shipped to Oz and exported to the US with the Australia label, but not exported with the 'Made in Australia' label under Oz law (unless 50%+ of the cost is incurred in Oz).

 

[MCW]

If only you saw all the television shows on how the "Made In Australia" labeling is being well and truly rorted
Labeling laws are a joke.