The "Busted Up Loggers" Thread

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Something sounds wrong here..."even with the hubs locked." If you have manual-locking hubs and they AREN'T locked, it doesn't matter whether the transfer case is in 4WD or not...you are in 2WD.

The Ford and Toyota have identical 4WD systems (when the hubs are locked), but your Toyota probably has LS. That was an option on the Ford...how come you didn't get it?




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Ford will be owned by Toyota soon.........:) :)
 
What with today's fine weather, I got to give the Chevy a go up new construction, 18% grade and a bit muddy. It made it with the highway tires, just slid a little. I'm thinking it might be OK. It has an excellent tunes radio in it and that is very important. Good heater cuz I got dried out on my way there, just stopped at the office to eat the yogurt. I haven't figured out how to eat yogurt while driving. A big straw? I can see it now, The Yogurt Straw.:) Any investors?
 
What with today's fine weather, I got to give the Chevy a go up new construction, 18% grade and a bit muddy. It made it with the highway tires, just slid a little. I'm thinking it might be OK. It has an excellent tunes radio in it and that is very important. Good heater cuz I got dried out on my way there, just stopped at the office to eat the yogurt. I haven't figured out how to eat yogurt while driving. A big straw? I can see it now, The Yogurt Straw.:) Any investors?

New construction? They actually built a new road? 18%? I gotta hear more about this.
 
New construction? They actually built a new road? 18%? I gotta hear more about this.

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The Linkbelt is back and he can still pick your nose with it.

A temporary road. Not a system road. It has to be put back after use. Resloped and everything. No, doesn't make sense. And I think there are no new roads of any kind in any of the future sales. That means more helicopter and less money for the 'ologists after the sale. But they haven't figured that last part out yet.

There will have to be some explosives used if the logging plan is to be followed. He hit rock that couldn't be broken up with the excavator today.
Did you know that explosions are the most disturbing action you can do?
Causes major stress on wildlife? Etc. and other comments I got after the last time. :chatter: Never mind that it is tribal hunting season for elk at the same time. I didn't tell them that it is the drilling that is the noisiest.

So, the shooting of rock will have to be done this month or next summer.
 
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So you have crappy tires on the Ford, and you complain about it being a POS because it drives poorly on crappy tires? (Do I have that right?)

No, my ex has crappy tires, on her crappy POS Ford PU. I want no part of that truck. The tires are part of it, but the 4WD system is not that good on that thing. Pops out of 4WD all the time (the lever), and does not have a very good suspension or steering. Seems to transfer all the power to the right rear tire even in 4WD. The other BIG problem is that it has a clutch. Never get a 4WD with a clutch...

Funny about all this polishing stuff. My Toyota is a TRD equipped Tundra. My Land Rover off-road buddies used black electric tape and added a 'U' to the decals to make it the TuRD. The truck has had that name ever since. They were getting back at me way up at Sourdough Camp in the remotes of South Oregon/North California for selling my Rangie and getting a Toyota.
 
No, my ex has crappy tires, on her crappy POS Ford PU. I want no part of that truck. The tires are part of it, but the 4WD system is not that good on that thing. Pops out of 4WD all the time (the lever), and does not have a very good suspension or steering. Seems to transfer all the power to the right rear tire even in 4WD. The other BIG problem is that it has a clutch. Never get a 4WD with a clutch...

Funny about all this polishing stuff. My Toyota is a TRD equipped Tundra. My Land Rover off-road buddies used black electric tape and added a 'U' to the decals to make it the TuRD. The truck has had that name ever since. They were getting back at me way up at Sourdough Camp in the remotes of South Oregon/North California for selling my Rangie and getting a Toyota.
Ya sure one of the front hubs wernt broken mine acted that way when one of the dandy automatic front hubs went out on me.
 
The tires are part of it, but the 4WD system is not that good on that thing. Pops out of 4WD all the time (the lever), and does not have a very good suspension or steering. Seems to transfer all the power to the right rear tire even in 4WD. The other BIG problem is that it has a clutch. Never get a 4WD with a clutch...

  1. The lever popping-out sucks. I prefer manual engagement of 4WD over push-button any day of the week, but yeah...having a lever popping-out sounds like it needs adjusting/repair. Once engaged, however, the 4WD systems on your trucks work identically. Both axles locked together, neither wheel locked to either axle.
  2. I and most people I know of prefer a stick to a slushy any day of the week for off-roading. Much better control. (And if you're rock crawling, just use your starter to creep.) It does take more skill to drive a manual off-road, but the rewards are worth it.

Ya sure one of the front hubs wernt broken mine acted that way when one of the dandy automatic front hubs went out on me.

Either that or the crappy tires.



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I and most people I know of prefer a stick to a slushy any day of the week for off-roading. Much better control. (And if you're rock crawling, just use your starter to creep.) It does take more skill to drive a manual off-road, but the rewards are worth it.

Just the oppisite is true. Automatics are far better than a clutch off-roading, and offer far better control. I used to think that clutches were better, but saw the light one spring long ago off-roading in Borrego Springs. That was with the first serious group of 4-wheelers I have hung out with. Most of the runs we used to do there are now closed. Rock crawling is far easier/safer and saner with an automatic, and full lockers, and there is no delay in clutching, or when changing gears. I have run with many pro off-roaders, and done the Rubicon, Moab, and a lot of other serious off-road runs in both clutch and automatic vehicles of all types. I even tried out tried for the US Camel Trophy team one year in Hollister Hills. I regulary go to Browns Camp here west of Portland, where they do the PNW Challange every year. If you want to enter a balls to the wall off-roaing event, that is the one to go to.

So no way dude. Manual trannys are not better for off-roading. My brother has a manual tranny in his Tomb Raider Jeep that we did the Rubicon last time in. We nearly flipped it several times becasue of that damn clutch.

Of course, Stihl saws are my saw of choice too, and Husky saws suck. So what do I know?
 
So no way dude. Manual trannys are not better for off-roading. My brother has a manual tranny in his Tomb Raider Jeep that we did the Rubicon last time in. We nearly flipped it several times becasue of that damn clutch.

Of course, Stihl saws are my saw of choice too, and Husky saws suck. So what do I know?

Lemme guess...he didn't know how to use the starter to bump the vehicle up, did he? A competent off-roader doesn't use the clutch going up and down rocks.

Then again...look at the last line in your post...




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Lemme guess...he didn't know how to use the starter to bump the vehicle up, did he? A competent off-roader doesn't use the clutch going up and down rocks.

Then again...look at the last line in your post...




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Woodie, you do know that everything sold in the last 20 years has a clutch safety switch, right? You're not advocating that people bypass safety features are you?
 
Woodie, you do know that everything sold in the last 20 years has a clutch safety switch, right? You're not advocating that people bypass safety features are you?

If they are offroading, yes. My TJ even showed how to do it in the owner's manual. ;-)




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Toyotas have a clutch start cancel switch on the dash...

Now that's a pretty cool feature. I had to put a fuse in in order to override mine.

I tell you a Toyota I always wanted was one of the original FJs. (Not that ridiculous retard-runner they sell now.) Talk about overbuilt...those old FJs, if you could keep the rust off 'em...very nice.



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The old FJ-40's... Great offroad vehicles.

One caution... they are very "front heavy" when jumping creeks... they will land front end down usually into the other bank of the creek... ripping out the upper shock mounts... also ends up with the driver needing 13 stitches in their chin while bouncing off the steering wheel... which will also end up bent like a large taco.

Don't ask me how I know... :laugh:

Gary
 
The old FJ-40's... Great offroad vehicles.

One caution... they are very "front heavy" when jumping creeks... they will land front end down usually into the other bank of the creek... ripping out the upper shock mounts... also ends up with the driver needing 13 stitches in their chin while bouncing off the steering wheel... which will also end up bent like a large taco.

Don't ask me how I know... :laugh:

Gary

Ah, c'mon....more details. Were there adult beverages involved? :cheers:
 

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