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Skeans
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Come down where I am and you'll see Oak about 15 minutes from places, I'm too close to the coast.
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The scrubby black oaks start about Olympia, just never got to chew on em.
RandyMac
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'chairs should never be a surprise.
Frank Savage
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Ash-Fraxinus genus, leaves pinnately compound, "helicopter seeds". But in the US you have many adjectives to it, so these adjectived are used for Sorbus (pinnately compound leaves, red berries in grapes-good to make jam, some species even wine and very interesting liquor). "Ash" alone (Fraxinus) is not much prone to barberchair, most of the species are quite very durable wood with lots of elasticity. Holds on sis pretty damn well. Sorbus is much less durable wood, namely when fresh and wet, but holds the sis well too, can chair, but nothing bad-basswood is worse in my books. Nips from sides under the hinge takes care of like 99% of trouble.
Alder-Alnus genus. Single leaves, very small nuts, one species have them in sticky subtomentous packaging (sticky, fuzzy skin on them). Unpredictable, barberchairing, splitting, and self-busting bastard. Young trees with flat (usualy grey) skin are the worst. Can´t say how I hate cutting 6-12" range on these trees, seems they are on kamikadze vendetta for all other trees the faller ever cut. Old 2+ ft trees with striated bark, which emerges with age, are much better-but still can give you a helluva trouble, because albeit the wood has some respectable tensile/compression strenght, it is brittle when wet. Those species with dark red wood (well, light reddish-yellow, but turns red or yellowish-red very fast after cut and throughout during drying) are namely used for carpentery/higher end cabinetmaking and if grown on not-so-wet elluvium at about 1200+ elevation, the wood holds on stringers of stairs about forever-better than oak and does not squeal upon stepping on it.
Alder-Alnus genus. Single leaves, very small nuts, one species have them in sticky subtomentous packaging (sticky, fuzzy skin on them). Unpredictable, barberchairing, splitting, and self-busting bastard. Young trees with flat (usualy grey) skin are the worst. Can´t say how I hate cutting 6-12" range on these trees, seems they are on kamikadze vendetta for all other trees the faller ever cut. Old 2+ ft trees with striated bark, which emerges with age, are much better-but still can give you a helluva trouble, because albeit the wood has some respectable tensile/compression strenght, it is brittle when wet. Those species with dark red wood (well, light reddish-yellow, but turns red or yellowish-red very fast after cut and throughout during drying) are namely used for carpentery/higher end cabinetmaking and if grown on not-so-wet elluvium at about 1200+ elevation, the wood holds on stringers of stairs about forever-better than oak and does not squeal upon stepping on it.
Frank Savage
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Here ya go-one definitely pro video with some "holy c*ap!" moments. Don´t mind the wanabee metal...
And one from the other side of scale. But bunch of interesting ideas in there
And one from the other side of scale. But bunch of interesting ideas in there
Frank Savage
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Another one. Stumbling upon these, not looking for them. Backsloping gunning cut and camera in the leade-new in my books too 
SliverPicker
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Whuh!
treeslayer2003
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omg! i almost pulled out whats left of mah hair watching that second vid. wth is that dope doing?
bitzer
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Ash chairs very easily. Basswood never does. I just wonder sometimes...
bitzer
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bitzer
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Agreed! I'd love to cut anything over a 100' tall.
treeslayer2003
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i get 100' pine and poplar once in a while. i couldn't imagine 200'
1270d
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Same here for short timber. Tallest for me was an 11 stick big tooth. I didn't measure it out, but that should come out to about 100 ft.
LOL...word of caution...once you cut one that tall, especially if they're eight or nine feet dbh, you're hooked for life. Nothing else will ever compare.
The crew from Montana had looks of awe on their faces. I was out having a discussion about the helicopter landing and location. They were looking at the second growth they "got" to cut. They'd never cut such nice, tall trees before. They looked like little boys on Christmas morning. To me, the trees were pretty normal.
Oh, and I think a couple of guys were from Idaho also.
Oh, and I think a couple of guys were from Idaho also.
dooby
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this Montana boy moved to Wyoming to log 200 yr. old ponderosa. the tallest i have found in well over a yr. was 130'. the avg. is 90'.
bitzer
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My 9 year old son wants to see em in the worst way. We don't even talk about it that much. The only place he wants to go when asked is Nor Cal.
OlympicYJ
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It may cut like ash but once it's dry it definitely is not ash! We've got Oregon ash here but I haven't cut enough of it to form an opinion on green ash that is.
It's funny in WA they are protected but as I understand it in OR they aren't.
Dunno about MT but ID has some really nice stuff. Especially on state ground. Pretty darn straight and good diameter. May be a little shorter but definitely nice sticks... well maybe not quite like Gubmint second growth...
