The working man, and chainsaw thread!!!!!!!!!

[NHlocal]

Yep great friends here indeed Randy. I feel better already, really do. I have always been my worst critic and at times worst enemy. I get better as I get older, wished I had made the time to go see my sick friend, as a year in my busy life flew by. Moving away from my hometown, I did not realize I would not be able to see certain friends as much. But my mind is coming around, and I learned a lesson on that last job. Because I broke one of my own most important rules. While hunting, or doing tree work, because they both can be real dangerous. I always try and clear my mind if not you are going to get into trouble. I think that branch that got me, even though I was looking up, while falling the tree I did it with an unclear head, otherwise I shoulda seen it. Close call glad it worked out and put me in my place. I am getting back on track, and going to run the dogs soon, that always helps clear mind and heart. Cutting wood is always therapy as well:cool2: Randy. M I know you do understand my friend:cool2: Dennis I agree on the political end you are right. If any of you hunters get on Face book look me up we started a good group of hunters. Aaron security breech! WTF? what are they spambot things? Why do they come in here? Not sure what they gain, or are looking for? Good catch my friend that was fast, and a keen eye! Thanks Brian too! Meanwhile time for some tree cutting and pictures! 28th we have a work day at one of the ranches, so soon. The other day I ran our 3120 at work in a good oak that came down, bloomfield near burnside, not far from Aaron. All I can say is that thing is a beast:cool2:

Hey Norm,
.....happy to hear you're feeling better. Always take time to mourn, but carrying regrets will always wear you down to the point of being completely discouraged, and that my friend is a condition I don't like to see anybody in. :msp_thumbdn: You just can't function, as you said, maybe the reason you missed seeing that branch. Ayuh, cutting wood is great therapy, I've never run anything like that 3120 but I can imagine it put a BIG smile on your face, can't help but smile myself thinking about running a saw like that! :msp_w00t: I'm leaving in about 15 minutes to go look at some trees a friend of a man I cut for last summer would like me to cut. :msp_thumbup:
Brian,
I would be as much into bikes as you are but I just don't have the time or money. I have a TREK Fuel 90, TREK was nice enough to replace my Y3 frame for free when they found a crack in it, of course I upgraded some components when I got the new frame(about 2 years ago), has treated me well so far. I mostly ride single track and "road"(I use road loosely because I have to ride on it to get to the track, work, and trails:hmm3grin2orange Four bikes.....:msp_ohmy: I barely have time to ride one.

 

[Alex D]

Randy, Dennis, and Shane good to see ya my friends. Sleep lacking on my end. I have sleep apnea, use a machine helps me, well works wonders. But I have been getting to bed to late, and had a heavy mind. Been fighting that bill sb 1221 to ban bear hounds. And found out this week a dear old friend died. He was the little brother I never had, and was 35. At night lately instead of hunting, my dog, and my saws when I hit the pillow. I fall asleep with many regrets. Hope I shake it and get back on track.

Norm please accept my condolences for your friend I am very sorry to hear that. All I can say is try to think about all the good times you had with one another rather than focus on the regrets.

Don't let the politics get too heavy on you, ultimately it's the bigger wallets and/or richer voters that usually win that battle. We've lost the Spring bear hunt up here, and have more bear issues than you can shake a stick at. We now deal with them ourselves, a more "permanent" solution.

As for your friend, my condolences, God's Speed for your friend's family, and yours. Regrets tend to get you in a negative state of mind, I try to look forward, at something positive. It's the only way I can keep us together sometimes.

Take care Norm ;-)

Yes Denis and when they put that ban into place they said it was because of to many cubs being killed in Spring which was unfounded seeing as the year prior to the ban being put in place only something like 2 had been killed. Bear populations I am guessing are skyrocketing seeing as trappers are no longer interested in going after bear because their hides are bad in the fall and the work it takes to catch and put one up makes it not worth the effort. Plus the outfitters Id imagine have taken a hit to as most sport hunters prefere the better spring hides as trophies. At least bear goulash still tastes just as good:msp_thumbsup:.

 

[Brian13]

Yep great friends here indeed Randy. I feel better already, really do. I have always been my worst critic and at times worst enemy. I get better as I get older, wished I had made the time to go see my sick friend, as a year in my busy life flew by. Moving away from my hometown, I did not realize I would not be able to see certain friends as much. But my mind is coming around, and I learned a lesson on that last job. Because I broke one of my own most important rules. While hunting, or doing tree work, because they both can be real dangerous. I always try and clear my mind if not you are going to get into trouble. I think that branch that got me, even though I was looking up, while falling the tree I did it with an unclear head, otherwise I shoulda seen it. Close call glad it worked out and put me in my place. I am getting back on track, and going to run the dogs soon, that always helps clear mind and heart. Cutting wood is always therapy as well:cool2: Randy. M I know you do understand my friend:cool2: Dennis I agree on the political end you are right. If any of you hunters get on Face book look me up we started a good group of hunters. Aaron security breech! WTF? what are they spambot things? Why do they come in here? Not sure what they gain, or are looking for? Good catch my friend that was fast, and a keen eye! Thanks Brian too! Meanwhile time for some tree cutting and pictures! 28th we have a work day at one of the ranches, so soon. The other day I ran our 3120 at work in a good oak that came down, bloomfield near burnside, not far from Aaron. All I can say is that thing is a beast

Glad to hear your getting back on track!! I find being outdoors in general is good for clearing the mind. Dosnt matter if its hunting/fishing, biking, tree work, or what ever else being outdoors is good for the soul. And I understand the stress of the politics, everyday I wonder what kind of world my kids will left with or if there will be any left at all. It wasnt long ago peta was down here protesting sport fishing. Not only a hobby of mine, but also a huge part of Floridas economy. And to top it all off, I see out govt. is trying to get us to join in a UN world ban on citizen fire arm ownership. You have to fight it, but you cant let it get the best of you otherwise you will go crazy.

I have few different bikes, mostly ride a road bike, my son and I mountain bike in parks around here. Also have a touring bike. I have only around 600 miles and normally should be over 1500. Blame it on the chainsaw.

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Awesome, I have one nice road bike and 3 mountain bikes I built. Prefer the mtb bikes, but occasionally I will hop on the road bike. Wish I had more time.

Hey Norm,
.....happy to hear you're feeling better. Always take time to mourn, but carrying regrets will always wear you down to the point of being completely discouraged, and that my friend is a condition I don't like to see anybody in. :msp_thumbdn: You just can't function, as you said, maybe the reason you missed seeing that branch. Ayuh, cutting wood is great therapy, I've never run anything like that 3120 but I can imagine it put a BIG smile on your face, can't help but smile myself thinking about running a saw like that! :msp_w00t: I'm leaving in about 15 minutes to go look at some trees a friend of a man I cut for last summer would like me to cut. :msp_thumbup:
Brian,
I would be as much into bikes as you are but I just don't have the time or money. I have a TREK Fuel 90, TREK was nice enough to replace my Y3 frame for free when they found a crack in it, of course I upgraded some components when I got the new frame(about 2 years ago), has treated me well so far. I mostly ride single track and "road"(I use road loosely because I have to ride on it to get to the track, work, and trails:hmm3grin2orange Four bikes.....:msp_ohmy: I barely have time to ride one.

Thats is a nice bike, I like the fuel ex series. Trek is a good company, although they dont cater to my style of riding they are a good company and stand behind there dealers. I have built may of Treks and they are solid bikes. Most of my riding is dirt jumping and freeride. I wish I had the time I used to, and if I hadnt worked at a shop before I had kids, there would be no way I would have the bikes I have. Now I just wish I had time to ride them.

Back on topic, today was a kind of mixed day. Randy I will say I give you mad props for getting to where you are on your own. When I first got into this, I wanted to learn as much as I could. Read a lot of books, watched some DVDs and tried to figure it out as I go. Realized today, that I have a long way to go. Got to take down that other pine today, got to top it twice as it was a co-dominant tree. The first top we roped down and went for quit a ride LOL. It was really frustrating though, I know the mechanics of how it works, and I understand the importance of paying attention to detail. But no matter what, my face cuts were horrible and everything was off. I really wanted to blow through this, and show my boss whats up, instead I just looked like a rookie. Seemed like the more I tried to do it right the more off I was. He was really cool about, and understands nobody starts out a pro. I am very lucky to be in the position that I am in. With that being said, aside from falling short of my expectations I had an absolute blast. Learned a lot, got whipped around a little bit when the tops went, and just had a blast. We have two more dead pines that will come out soon, so I am hoping to be a little bit smoother next time.

 

[struggle]

The Trek Y frames were always a neat bike to see. There are still a few Y frames out going in road bike version.

My road bike is a Serrotta and MTB is a Specialized rock hopper 29r hardtail with disk brakes which I picked up this summer. First MTB with disk and me likey very much since I am a heavier rider.

Just because I am riding accross the state doesn't mean I won't have my eye open for any chainsaw shops I might come across. Theres always UPS

 

[NORMZILLA44]

Love ya brothers! Thanks for the kind words. Always been a lone wolf and I will find my way. I will bounce back again.

 

[NHlocal]

.....WOW!.....so many posts, so little time. I "logged"D) on before work this morning to see what's going on and all these posts came up! I have replies to post but no time to do it now.....need to put on coffee and go to work.....I'll be back.....:hmm3grin2orange:
Work safe this morning. :msp_thumbsup:

 

[NHlocal]

Glad to hear your getting back on track!! I find being outdoors in general is good for clearing the mind. Dosnt matter if its hunting/fishing, biking, tree work, or what ever else being outdoors is good for the soul. And I understand the stress of the politics, everyday I wonder what kind of world my kids will left with or if there will be any left at all. It wasnt long ago peta was down here protesting sport fishing. Not only a hobby of mine, but also a huge part of Floridas economy. And to top it all off, I see out govt. is trying to get us to join in a UN world ban on citizen fire arm ownership. You have to fight it, but you cant let it get the best of you otherwise you will go crazy.



Awesome, I have one nice road bike and 3 mountain bikes I built. Prefer the mtb bikes, but occasionally I will hop on the road bike. Wish I had more time.



Thats is a nice bike, I like the fuel ex series. Trek is a good company, although they dont cater to my style of riding they are a good company and stand behind there dealers. I have built may of Treks and they are solid bikes. Most of my riding is dirt jumping and freeride. I wish I had the time I used to, and if I hadnt worked at a shop before I had kids, there would be no way I would have the bikes I have. Now I just wish I had time to ride them.

Back on topic, today was a kind of mixed day. Randy I will say I give you mad props for getting to where you are on your own. When I first got into this, I wanted to learn as much as I could. Read a lot of books, watched some DVDs and tried to figure it out as I go. Realized today, that I have a long way to go. Got to take down that other pine today, got to top it twice as it was a co-dominant tree. The first top we roped down and went for quit a ride LOL. It was really frustrating though, I know the mechanics of how it works, and I understand the importance of paying attention to detail. But no matter what, my face cuts were horrible and everything was off. I really wanted to blow through this, and show my boss whats up, instead I just looked like a rookie. Seemed like the more I tried to do it right the more off I was. He was really cool about, and understands nobody starts out a pro. I am very lucky to be in the position that I am in. With that being said, aside from falling short of my expectations I had an absolute blast. Learned a lot, got whipped around a little bit when the tops went, and just had a blast. We have two more dead pines that will come out soon, so I am hoping to be a little bit smoother next time.

Hey Brian,
.....my response to the first part, short and to the point so I don't get the post pulled for talking about politics, we all need to get out and vote, 'nuff said!:msp_wink:

.....I definitely go for the mountain bikes, the best all around setup by far. I ride the road a lot to get where I'm going but, I don't like the road bikes 'cause ya' have to keep them on the road, and with the mountain bike you can jump on and off the sidewalk, hop curbs, and go pretty much where ever you need to with no worries. :msp_thumbup: Ayuh, TREK has taken care of me for sure, I know there are other good companies out there, I just happened to have a local dealer that has TREK as one of it's bike suppliers and being made in USA had something to do with it also. :msp_thumbup:

.....as far as getting to where I'm at on my own, there just ain't nobody I know that does tree work or climbs, had to do it on my own, the DVD's were a HUGE help. One of the biggest reasons, as I've said before, I'm SUPER critical of myself, I'm always striving to do my tree work safer/better every time I go out.(that's one of the main reasons I take as many pictures and videos as I can, a purely objective point of view) Just here in N.H. we've lost 4 lives in less than 2 years, not that I dwell on that but it crosses my mind almost every time I go to do tree work. It's not a distraction, I don't try to think about it, it's just there. And I take it as a reminder, it keeps me alert, so I never forget how dangerous this work "can" be. I'll never consider myself as "having arrived" with tree work, all I want is to do every job safe and above/beyond the customer's expectations, simple right?
Really does sound like you're well on your way learning what you need to know. Getting whipped around is a part of the experience many times. You're getting some real hands on experience. :hmm3grin2orange: Are you dropping the top into a "locked off" rope, is someone working the rope and "letting it run", or are you just "free-falling" them with no rope at all(except maybe a rope to pull it over)? Just wondering.....oh, I just looked at your post again, you roped the first one down, I guess my questions still apply. Making face cuts from spurs and a flip line are VERY different than making face cuts from the ground, I had all kinds of trouble getting used to positioning myself while making the cut and not having the saw push me away from the cut or pull me in toward the cut,getting the right leverage to make a good cut. It all takes time, the practical experience you're getting right now is priceless, be patient, and above all, like I have in my sig, ALWAYS BE TEACHABLE. That pretty much says it all.

Work safe. :msp_thumbsup:

 

[NHlocal]

The Trek Y frames were always a neat bike to see. There are still a few Y frames out going in road bike version.

My road bike is a Serrotta and MTB is a Specialized rock hopper 29r hardtail with disk brakes which I picked up this summer. First MTB with disk and me likey very much since I am a heavier rider.

Just because I am riding accross the state doesn't mean I won't have my eye open for any chainsaw shops I might come across. Theres always UPS

Shane.....I would love to see the look on the face of the guy behind the counter at a saw shop when you walk in to look at saws after getting off your bike with all your "bike gear" on.....:hmm3grin2orange::hmm3grin2orange::hmm3grin2orange:

 

[NHlocal]

Love ya brothers! Thanks for the kind words. Always been a lone wolf and I will find my way. I will bounce back again.

Norm,
from what what I've read in your posts, I believe you're the kind of person who loves being outside way too much to not get back out and get to it. However long it takes just make sure your thoughts/mind is on what you're doing, I really don't want to hear about you getting hurt again.....:msp_thumbdn:

Work safe. :msp_thumbsup:

 

[Brian13]

The Trek Y frames were always a neat bike to see. There are still a few Y frames out going in road bike version.

My road bike is a Serrotta and MTB is a Specialized rock hopper 29r hardtail with disk brakes which I picked up this summer. First MTB with disk and me likey very much since I am a heavier rider.

Just because I am riding accross the state doesn't mean I won't have my eye open for any chainsaw shops I might come across. Theres always UPS

Sounds like a couple of nice bikes. The Serrotta is a Ti frame isnt it? IIRC they use mostly Ti. The Rock Hopper should be a solid bike as well. I have a Specialized Big Hit, a .243, Kona Scrap, and a Trek Madone built into a single speed. I think the .243 get the most use.

Hey Brian,
.....my response to the first part, short and to the point so I don't get the post pulled for talking about politics, we all need to get out and vote, 'nuff said!:msp_wink:

.....I definitely go for the mountain bikes, the best all around setup by far. I ride the road a lot to get where I'm going but, I don't like the road bikes 'cause ya' have to keep them on the road, and with the mountain bike you can jump on and off the sidewalk, hop curbs, and go pretty much where ever you need to with no worries. :msp_thumbup: Ayuh, TREK has taken care of me for sure, I know there are other good companies out there, I just happened to have a local dealer that has TREK as one of it's bike suppliers and being made in USA had something to do with it also. :msp_thumbup:

.....as far as getting to where I'm at on my own, there just ain't nobody I know that does tree work or climbs, had to do it on my own, the DVD's were a HUGE help. One of the biggest reasons, as I've said before, I'm SUPER critical of myself, I'm always striving to do my tree work safer/better every time I go out.(that's one of the main reasons I take as many pictures and videos as I can, a purely objective point of view) Just here in N.H. we've lost 4 lives in less than 2 years, not that I dwell on that but it crosses my mind almost every time I go to do tree work. It's not a distraction, I don't try to think about it, it's just there. And I take it as a reminder, it keeps me alert, so I never forget how dangerous this work "can" be. I'll never consider myself as "having arrived" with tree work, all I want is to do every job safe and above/beyond the customer's expectations, simple right?
Really does sound like you're well on your way learning what you need to know. Getting whipped around is a part of the experience many times. You're getting some real hands on experience. :hmm3grin2orange: Are you dropping the top into a "locked off" rope, is someone working the rope and "letting it run", or are you just "free-falling" them with no rope at all(except maybe a rope to pull it over)? Just wondering.....oh, I just looked at your post again, you roped the first one down, I guess my questions still apply. Making face cuts from spurs and a flip line are VERY different than making face cuts from the ground, I had all kinds of trouble getting used to positioning myself while making the cut and not having the saw push me away from the cut or pull me in toward the cut,getting the right leverage to make a good cut. It all takes time, the practical experience you're getting right now is priceless, be patient, and above all, like I have in my sig, ALWAYS BE TEACHABLE. That pretty much says it all.

Work safe. :msp_thumbsup:

The top we roped was has my boss on the other end of the rope. He held onto it long enough to swing it out of the bushes and then let it run. The getting whipped around part was the fun part LOL, I really got a kick out of it. Work position was a huge struggle on this one for me. The tree looked like a Y more or less. It was a constant struggle trying to keep from falling all the way to the low side when limbing or making face cuts. I am trying to be as teachable as possible for sure, and I am happy to have a chance to get the practical experience. As long as I improve with each time it will all be good:msp_thumbup:.

 

[NHlocal]

The top we roped was has my boss on the other end of the rope. He held onto it long enough to swing it out of the bushes and then let it run. The getting whipped around part was the fun part LOL, I really got a kick out of it. Work position was a huge struggle on this one for me. The tree looked like a Y more or less. It was a constant struggle trying to keep from falling all the way to the low side when limbing or making face cuts. I am trying to be as teachable as possible for sure, and I am happy to have a chance to get the practical experience. As long as I improve with each time it will all be good:msp_thumbup:.

Having the tree spring back and forth when the top drops out can be quite a ride, :msp_w00t: I've had a few that were flat out scary, :msp_scared: totally my fault for sure, but I definitely learned what not to do. :hmm3grin2orange: With your work position, are you using two separate/different tie in points? I do that a lot when I am able, and have to be in an "odd" (read that as anything other than vertical:hmm3grin2orange position to make a "critical" cut that has to be done right. I know for me it's a huge help to keep me in position and stable, just a suggestion. Another thing you could try is to take one wrap around the trunk with your flip line, it will lock on to the trunk and you keep your flip line short on the high side to keep you from sliding to the low side, seems to work pretty good for me when I can't get two separate tie ins. You will quickly find what works for as you gain more practical experience. There's always more to learn Brian. Stay with it, sounds like you're doing alright. :msp_thumbup:

Work safe. :msp_thumbsup:

 

[NORMZILLA44]

Thanks Randy, yeah getting my head right. Be good to go for next Saturday Aaron is coming out with us. We will get some good photos of the gang. Glad to Brian that like Randy said you are getting great experience. Shane thanks for the pm! Had a bbq today, only one whiskey and coke. Almost polished off the whole bottle of B-velevt last night, so was not so thirsty today for whiskey LOL!

 

[Eccentric]

Thanks Randy, yeah getting my head right. Be good to go for next Saturday Aaron is coming out with us. We will get some good photos of the gang. Glad to Brian that like Randy said you are getting great experience. Shane thanks for the pm! Had a bbq today, only one whiskey and coke. Almost polished off the whole bottle of B-velevt last night, so was not so thirsty today for whiskey LOL!

All things in moderation my friend.

 

[NHlocal]

Thanks Randy, yeah getting my head right. Be good to go for next Saturday Aaron is coming out with us. We will get some good photos of the gang. Glad to Brian that like Randy said you are getting great experience. Shane thanks for the pm! Had a bbq today, only one whiskey and coke. Almost polished off the whole bottle of B-velevt last night, so was not so thirsty today for whiskey LOL!

Good to hear it Norm, look forward to seeing those pics.....:msp_thumbup:

 

[NHlocal]

All things in moderation my friend.

.....well said Aaron.....

 

[NORMZILLA44]

Whats up gang, and yes I agree moderation. Ahh the working man just BBQed, and relazed this weekend. Before that seemed only one tree job, and mostly working on saws lately. Got to put the 2100 I got for my buddy together and I am good. Got a new Cannon bar from Mike MDAVLEE. Put it on my 660 I love it. Nothing better. Im sold been years since I ran a Cannon. When I get the money I am switching out exclusively to them. They are that much better.

 

[2dogs]

Welacome to page # 101. If any of you get the chance to, take a drive on Hwy 101. If takes more time than I5 but Hwy 101 and Hwy 1 really give you a look into the soul of California.

If I ever wrote a book it would be on the architecture of the roadside. I love the old gas stations and little motels that line our old highways.

 

[Alex D]

Whats up gang, and yes I agree moderation. Ahh the working man just BBQed, and relazed this weekend. Before that seemed only one tree job, and mostly working on saws lately. Got to put the 2100 I got for my buddy together and I am good. Got a new Cannon bar from Mike MDAVLEE. Put it on my 660 I love it. Nothing better. Im sold been years since I ran a Cannon. When I get the money I am switching out exclusively to them. They are that much better.

Nice to hear you got a well deserved break Norm.

In regards to Cannon the only reason I wouldn't run them exclusively is because they dont make and show no intention of making light bars. Although I suppose light bar and Cannon is a bit of an oxymoron. They're amazing and excellent quality bars when you need a big bar with a big heavy saw however it seems for modern saws like in the 70-90cc range a 28" stihl es light or 30" tsumura light is a perfect combo.

 

[NHlocal]

Whats up gang, and yes I agree moderation. Ahh the working man just BBQed, and relazed this weekend. Before that seemed only one tree job, and mostly working on saws lately. Got to put the 2100 I got for my buddy together and I am good. Got a new Cannon bar from Mike MDAVLEE. Put it on my 660 I love it. Nothing better. Im sold been years since I ran a Cannon. When I get the money I am switching out exclusively to them. They are that much better.

Ayuh, BBQ, that's a great way to spend a day relaxing, glad to hear it Norm. :msp_thumbup: I have no experience with other bars on any of my saws, I've heard there are a lot of really good quality bars out there but just haven't tried any(yet), someday.....I guess I have to justify the purchase, and/or wear out the ones I've got.....:hmm3grin2orange:.

Work safe. :msp_thumbsup:

 

[Brian13]

BBQ? That was pretty much my whole weekend. Spent all day yesterday smoking some ribs, and even pulled out a saw to cut some chunks of wood into smaller pieces. Nothing like a BBQ with family and friends to relax (unless your the cook). Glad to here you got some relax time Norm.