this is something i was never taught...

[forestryworks]

maybe i need to find another teacher

[SEGMENTS: Calculation arrived at by dividing the height (in feet) of a tree by the diameter at breast height (in feet).
Used to determine whether or not a tree can be successfully wedged over against the lean.]

yes, it's from the OSHA logging glossary, but i found it interesting

 

[GASoline71]

Don't for get your carpenters square, protractor, and slide rule. All good fallers carry them.

Just keep bangin' 'em in... stack 'em if ya have to... she'll go over.

Gary

 

[056kid]

Damn, what about the LEAN(side & or head)!?!





Oh helll. i shouldn't be questioning the OSHA people!!!

LOL

 

[PA Plumber]

Don't for get your carpenters square, protractor, and slide rule. All good fallers carry them.

Just keep bangin' 'em in... stack 'em if ya have to... she'll go over.

Gary

It can get a little scary, though.

Triple stacked, on both sides near the hinge, is the most I have ever gone.

 

[Zackman1801]

hehe thats when the skidder comes in handy to give it the final blow.

 

[hammerlogging]

Much to Gary's irritation, thats GOL stuff too. You can do anything with back lean, its guidelines for side lean- whether the hinge will hold. 30 segment tree can have 14 feet of sidelean, 40 segment tree can 12 feet of side lean, etc. (perpendicular to direction of intended fall), etc. diameter is measured in feet, as is height. draw an imaginery circle around the crown and from the center of it drop your imaginery pink plumb bob down, where it hits the ground, measure over to the tree.

Of course, this is for reference, subject to interpretation. Usually can be evaluated in a second, without the array of tools. But, occasionally, like if there is some important target, a useful guideline.

And remember, hardwoods have those big heavy crowns and can have a whole lot of lean, which is to say probably not so relevant for west coasters.

OSHA isn't around the south till somebody gets kilt.

 

[hammerlogging]

Course when you're way up on the side of a mountain cutting out the timber, they're usually all poised to go about one way, and that'd be about downhill. Slope aspect can change this, sometimes you can work sideslope really well, just depends on where you are.

 

[Humptulips]

Geez, It doesn't even mention the importance of a fresh chew of copenhagen when sizing up a bad one. Obviously no practical experience.

 

[Billy_Bob]

There was an interesting article in Tree Services Magazine in their latest issue. You stack wedges one on top of another using multiple bore cuts below the backcut!

Here is the article and pictures of this about half way down...
http://www.treeservicesmagazine.com/article.php?id=2008

 

[Burvol]

Heavy limbs to a side & the love bird factor are major forces as well.

 

[hammerlogging]

Heavy limbs to a side & the love bird factor are major forces as well.

Love bird? whats this?

 

[Gologit]

Love bird? whats this?

LOL...It's a PNW thing. We just don't talk about it much.

 

[hammerlogging]

I've lived there for 6 years in different sessions, not enough? Nope, can't be a PNW transfer, wife is southern, not intersted (note- we met in NorCal)

 

[joesawer]

There was an interesting article in Tree Services Magazine in their latest issue. You stack wedges one on top of another using multiple bore cuts below the backcut!

Here is the article and pictures of this about half way down...
http://www.treeservicesmagazine.com/article.php?id=2008

LMAO.......... Instructors should stick to what they know. Not what they think.

 

[slowp]

I've lived there for 6 years in different sessions, not enough? Nope, can't be a PNW transfer, wife is southern, not intersted (note- we met in NorCal)

And before you move here, you gotta persuade 3 people to leave. (If 2 of you) Too crowded here now. I have not heard the love bird thing either but maybe I don't want to. I like the chew idea. I think it is polite when this one guy always offers me a chew before he dips chew out. But I always politely decline. Got enough bad habits. I find peanut M&Ms stimulate my brain.
Ok, back to OSHA. I see some interesting stumps along the road right of way cutting. I'm thinking the guy was swinging the trees against their lean a little bit. He's very good, so they must be ok.

 

[Burvol]

A love bird is when two trees are nestled into eachother really close, up in the crowns. That's household knowledge in the PNW.

 

[forestryworks]

There was an interesting article in Tree Services Magazine in their latest issue. You stack wedges one on top of another using multiple bore cuts below the backcut!

Here is the article and pictures of this about half way down...
http://www.treeservicesmagazine.com/article.php?id=2008

that just seems like a waste of time

if you can get a tree down in 3 cuts, do it

 

[Burvol]

Bore cuts! Bore Cuts! Bore Cuts! Just about as trendy here as the 361 curing cancer! Enough of the damn bore cuts! Shove your bore cuts!

 

[GASoline71]

Fuuny thing is... seems like more and more people use bore cuts to compensate for sloppy fallin' procedures. What they don't realize is that it is actually a very dangerous cut that should only be empoyed at certain times.

I can count on one hand the amount of times I have used a bore cut to fall trees in my 40 years on this planet.

Not a good practice to get used to doin' for every tree.

Gary

 

[056kid]

How would you drop a leaning 50'' white oak with a 20 inch bar?