forestryworks
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take that 20" bar off for starters...
this is something i was never taught...
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take that 20" bar off for starters...
Theres no sutch thing as " O let me stop everything and go get a 25 inch to drop one tree".
Bore cutting is a fact of life with a hardwood cutter..
Bore cutting is a fact of life with a hardwood cutter..
GASoline71
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forestryworks
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i cut hardwoods everyday
and on the big stuff i rarely bore cut
get the wood on the ground in as few cuts as possible,
hell you already got cut alot with the limbin'
joesawer
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I cut high value hard woods for mills in the southeast for years and rareley needed a bore cut. It suddenly became a trend a few years ago.
As for wedgeing, what about when the weight of a bird finaly tips a big love bird? I wonder if there is a chart to calculate the weight of a bird. If there is I wonder if it calculates how far away from the trunk it has to be in order to tip the tree.
As for wedgeing, what about when the weight of a bird finaly tips a big love bird? I wonder if there is a chart to calculate the weight of a bird. If there is I wonder if it calculates how far away from the trunk it has to be in order to tip the tree.
Nailsbeats
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True, true. The bore cut isn't any more dangerous than any other cut. Dangerous don't mean sh!t in this game anyhow.
RandyMac
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Uh huh.
I have to go with the folks who believe that the current bore cutting fad is overblown. I have indeed used bore (plunge) cuts, not often, mostly when bucking large logs in a bind, once in awhile to remove chunks from a large undercut.
Maybe it's a small saw thing.
RandyMac
I have to go with the folks who believe that the current bore cutting fad is overblown. I have indeed used bore (plunge) cuts, not often, mostly when bucking large logs in a bind, once in awhile to remove chunks from a large undercut.
Maybe it's a small saw thing.
RandyMac
Nailsbeats
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It's that and a hardwood thing. Long bars don't bore very well for sure. I was just talking to the owner of one of the bigger logging outfits around here and he claims they bore cut everything, 20" bars too. I personally only bore heavy leaners and a few other rare situations. It is very useful in cold weather when it is hard to keep up to a leaner without a barber chair, it doesn't take much at all to do that to a Red Oak when its below 0.
hammerlogging
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Thinking sticks are useful too, depends on your preference.
hammerlogging
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I have no problem boring with 28-32" bars, personally. And the more trees you can bore all the way through, the faster. And, face cuts all done on one side more often. Trendy? damn.
There's lots a fellows around these mountains that would say the same about a face cut and hinge- overrated. Course, there's about half as many of those guys as there'd be if they'd tried....progress . I'm comfortable with you all not liking it, please feel free to knock it. Its good technique.
There's lots a fellows around these mountains that would say the same about a face cut and hinge- overrated. Course, there's about half as many of those guys as there'd be if they'd tried....progress . I'm comfortable with you all not liking it, please feel free to knock it. Its good technique.
LOL...I'm tired of arguing about it. It's just another in a long list of things that most of us will never agree on. Hell, use dynaminte and a D-9 to fall your trees...or fingernail clippers and pinking shears, whatever works. I think the main thing to remember is not to get locked in to one way of thinking. Too many times guys seem to think that if they just follow all the advice in the book the tree will go exactly where they want. Trees don't read.
GASoline71
Mr. Nice Guy
Trees don't read.
...and they are not forgiving. Usually you only get to learn your lesson once.
Gary
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G- I'm way down with the "overengineering inspector" attitude- just noticed your signature, I totally get that mentality, if that is I am interpreting it right. "Shut up kid and work." If bore cuts fall into that category for you, I understand.
I'm not clear on how bore cutting can be used to compensate for sloppy cutting. Sloppy cutting seems to come from the one running the saw, regardless of techinique attempted. Whatever. Happy Sunday.
I'm not clear on how bore cutting can be used to compensate for sloppy cutting. Sloppy cutting seems to come from the one running the saw, regardless of techinique attempted. Whatever. Happy Sunday.
Please try and get your trees on the ground. I won't say where, but I have been coming across a lot of hangups lately. I don't hear the guys in that area using wedges much. I don't think they are thinking about the people who have to come in AFTER the falling. They do put a little teeny piece of Danger Tree flagging on the hangups. This is my pet peeve of the month. I'll be crawling through the fell and buck and see what looks to my near sighted eyes like a leaner, (yup, I should have the glasses along) then I see the chunks from trying to get the tree unstuck, and I realize it isn't just a leaner, then I utter a bad word and start detouring around, but sometimes the hangups are so prevalant, there is nowhere to detour to. So I don't care what kind of cut you do. Be safe and TRY HARD TO GET THE TREE ON THE GROUND. Rant over. All is happiness and good thoughts now. Picture follows. This was just one of many spots. You may now stone me.
That is bad slope, especially if it is a regular thing. How is it going to be logged?
Full suspension.
Tell me these weren't fallers. Tell me these were firewood cutters...or something. How long had the hangups been there? And what did they finally do about them?
Burvol
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I told you earlier I would have come up to work!!! Jokers from Montana
They should at least skin those leaners as well... Hey dude, swingin' smaller timber in a tight partial doesn't always work, does it?
They should at least skin those leaners as well... Hey dude, swingin' smaller timber in a tight partial doesn't always work, does it?
Look closely, you will see the little bit of danger tree flagging. That is what they do about them. There are some guys who can get the trees on the ground there, but I'm seeing more hangups in this unit than on any other. Most of the fallers around here are able to work the trees so they will miss a big tree or old growth leave tree. Those hangups are hanging in an old, live cedar.
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