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For me its mostly the terrain that decides bar length and style. Here I can put every thing flat on the ground and a short bar is faster for me than walking the log. If the timber were a bit bigger/ with steeper or broken up ground that would all change.

Hey SC you did say we would probably digress, did'nt you?
 
The tree on the house guy has probably never seen a wedge in his life. Like many guys around here if you put a face in it the tree has to fall in that direction no matter what right? wrong. His saw could use a tune up too. Old lady commentary is great, wish I could see the fallers face when he turns around!


Longer bars have saved my ass on several occasions and they will again. Bucking under pressure for one. Felling a hazard tree you are already that much farther away,2. Extra reach limbing, walking a log or not, 3. Back saver,4. Most of my terrain here is flat. We do have plenty of rolling hills and steep drop offs but nothing like out west or in appalachia. I can get most of my work done with a 25" and that is the shortest I have run for about 5 years now. Bigger or hazard trees or more dangerous bucking and I've got a 36" bar for those. Originally I ran 16s, 18s, and 20s for the first two years of felling because that is what the boss had. I had a revelation one day after getting poked in the eye about a hundred times by sticks that a longer bar will give me longer reach and safer distance. I put a 25" bar on the bosses acount and never looked back. I run 25" bars on my 60cc saws and 28" on my bigger saws 70- 80+cc, but I also have the 36" option when I need it. An extra 5" may not seem like much compared to a 20" bar but it really is an extra step or so away. It seems a lot farther. Just like a 32" to 36", only 4 inches but seems like a mile. Around here a 32" does not seem practical on a daily basis, but 25" and 28" do for sure. Only three cuts on a tree instead of 6 with a smaller bar is a lot easier. Also if you can only cut from one side of the tree and the bar is too short, its not a lot of fun. Short bars have their place, just not for me.
 
Burvol said:
Did you notice he just goes over to the far side and cuts up all of his holding wood while standing under the lean right off the get. His arms dropping and his whole body in disbelief is of the utmost classic caliber.
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I'm guessing he could have put that directly at the camera or 180 degrees from that. A little wedge, boom, done.

Or, realize that there is a house right there worth way more than a pro and have them do a takedown.
 
John Ellison said:
For me its mostly the terrain that decides bar length and style. Here I can put every thing flat on the ground and a short bar is faster for me than walking the log. If the timber were a bit bigger/ with steeper or broken up ground that would all change.

Hey SC you did say we would probably digress, did'nt you?
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I know what you're talking about short bars. Since I demoted myself to being just a thinning contractor, I dropped down to 28" bars myself. :poke: :hmm3grin2orange:

Andy
 
redprospector said:
I know what you're talking about short bars. Since I demoted myself to being just a thinning contractor, I dropped down to 28" bars myself. :poke: :hmm3grin2orange:

Andy
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A 28" reduced weight with either a modded 372/460 is a great thinning combo. Plenty of power on that size of bar, just enough reach and light weight.
 
Burvol said:
A 28" reduced weight with either a modded 372/460 is a great thinning combo. Plenty of power on that size of bar, just enough reach and light weight.
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I'm gonna have to try one of those reduced weight bars.
Thinning, I don't cut many trees that a 28" won't cut from one side. The main thing though is I really don't like hunching up like a monkey on a football when limbing. :cheers:

Andy
 
Burvol said:
Go buck blow down and you'll understand why long bars shine in logging.
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That's a fact mang. :)

Gologit said:
Well said. I don't watch too many of those tree disaster videos. They make my teeth hurt.
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I will never understand why some drips put videos on youtube of their so called "skills". There should be more dead people... but lady luck usually shines on idiots more than people with true skills.

There are some cats that are members here that I can't believe still have all their fingers and toes. Or haven't had their teeth knocked out from "fallin'" trees.

Gary
 
When I started logging in Alabama 16" bars where the norm on 70+ cc saws. Much to my grandfathers dismay it is what I used. He logged some of the last bigger timber in the east and worked during the transition from misery whip and ax to chainsaw.
When I started doing tree service work I started using a 24" bar for general use and a 36" when necessary.
Then I settled on a 32" for most general purpose falling when I started logging small parcels for myself. I learned the hard way the advantage of increased accuracy in your cuts.
When I went west and worked with the guys from PNW started using a 36" bar at first but settled on 32" bar on a 372 and a 42" on a 395.
I am back in AL right now and am cutting mostly with a 32" bar. But the other day I dug out an old 24" and full comp chain that I put a square grind on and cut up an oak tree into fire wood and it was pretty dang fast.
Don't let any one tell you that a 372 wont pull a 32" in eastern hardwood. Just because it wont for them does not mean it will not do it.
Also most people have no concept of what bad ground is. When you are in real danger of falling off the mountain it changes your priorities.
If some body does not NEED caulks they probably don't NEED a long bar.
Lol But even when I don't need one I like a 32". But remember to some people a 32" is a little short bar!
 
Sometimes, I'd like to have a 20 foot long bar. I don't like blowdown excitement. I spend a lot of time staring at it before and during cutting. Ah, the Zen Of Blowdown. Focus, try to understand it, be the tree....
 
GASoline71 said:
That's a fact mang. :)



I will never understand why some drips put videos on youtube of their so called "skills". There should be more dead people... but lady luck usually shines on idiots more than people with true skills.

There are some cats that are members here that I can't believe still have all their fingers and toes. Or haven't had their teeth knocked out from "fallin'" trees.

Gary
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I never understood it either Gary, I DO know that the liberal media has somthing to do with it though...
 

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