Timberwolf Verses Super Split process time

[HARRY BARKER]

The super split looks great if all your wood is straight 16"-18" dia logs.

HAHAHAHAHA.......obviously you havent run one.

 

[brushbandit]

HAHAHAHAHA.......obviously you havent run one.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..........I have run one, great for 16"-18" straight wood and big wood thats been quartered up on the TW-5. Like I said I'll stick with the TW-5 and a multi-wedge.

 

[HARRY BARKER]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..........I have run one, great for 16"-18" straight wood and big wood thats been quartered up on the TW-5. Like I said I'll stick with the TW-5 and a multi-wedge.

ok then.im gettin a TW-5 tatoo

 

[brushbandit]

ok then.im gettin a TW-5 tatoo

No, it's not that good. I'd go with the naked lady.

 

[brushbandit]

we are talking about similar splitters in the two series. The TW-5 is over $6000. and it's a 10 second cycle as advertised on the timberwolfs web site not 9, and the super split is 2.5 seconds as advertised on super splits web site not 3.5 not many guys on here are buying a tw-5, I don't think.

I guess it's not a fair comparison. How much is a super split?

 

[HARRY BARKER]

No, it's not that good. I'd go with the naked lady.

i been lookin,cant find one yet.

 

[CUCV]

I guess it's not a fair comparison. How much is a super split?

Paid $1500 for mine new, they are $3000 now.

 

[CUCV]

Yes that is a good video and I share your curiosity about a 4 way wedge.





My hydraulic splitter with it's 4 way wedge is faster and a lot less work for the operator. If each piece of wood only needed split in half then the super splitter would be a winner. Seeing the work done by the operator on the larger pieces that needed to be picked back up and run by the ram a second time hurt to watch.

4+4+4+4+4 piles up much faster than 2+2+2+2+2.

I don't mind picking the logs back up when they are on the tray. The guy I bought my conveyor from had a 6 way setup on his supersplit. It was a very early superplit with a single high speed flywheel (3600 rpm) vs. the 2 slow speed flywheels.

 

[Outriggers]

I liked the V-twin, so I went with a tw-6, works good. My back likes it, 36" oak round no problem.

 

[sloth9669]

i got a tw5 with hydro log lift and 6 way wedge. i know for a fact the ss could not do what this machine can do. and the cycle time is down to around 7 sec

 

[Blackjack1234]

How many cords a day can you do at 15-20 min a cord? Since I do 16" wood and split it small I haven't been able to get thru that much wood that fast. I've done a 16" cord in just over a half hour but I can constantly do 8 cord a day.
I split a ton of elm last year with the SS, yes its slower but does just fine, I quartered most of it with the saw just to lift it. Most 13 sec. hydraulic splitters won't have 13 sec. cycle time in elm when they kick down to 2.5gpm.

I can't wait to get a 4 way on my SS!

This is a little video of my SS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoIkEBKmQ5k

Nice video, fast splitting, but I personally don't want to run a splitter that has an automatic forward lever, I like my hands and fingers too much!!!

 

[wkpoor]

i got a tw5 with hydro log lift and 6 way wedge. i know for a fact the ss could not do what this machine can do. and the cycle time is down to around 7 sec

I am by no means defending the SS but I'll bet it costs less than half the TW5. Heck a guy could write in here his processor will blow us all away but again that would be comparing a 30K+ machine to a 3-6K machine. As with anything it cost more to faster.

 

[STLfirewood]

Nice video, fast splitting, but I personally don't want to run a splitter that has an automatic forward lever, I like my hands and fingers too much!!!

That is just the way it is adjusted. You can adjust it to stop as soon and you let go of the lever.

Scott

 

[bigden]

faster

with the tw-p1 i can do the real tough wood plus the easy wood so being the tw-p1 is more versatile with the 4 way too, versatility is the key to all things good

 

[STLfirewood]

ou an do the tough wood with the SS also. My friend has a tw-p2. It's a nice machine. He told me he can't wait until he saves enough money to buy a SS. Once he saw my machine work he wishes he would have bought a SS instead of the timberwolfe model he bought. Timberwolfe makes nice stuff. But overall a TW-1 or 2 can not keep up with a SS. That's just th truth. Some people might prefer the timberwolfe and there is nothing wrong with that. It's just not as fast.

Scott

 

[epicklein22]

One thing I can't figure out is I have never heard of or read of anyone that wasn't delighted with their SS. So why hasn't the SS (Kenetic energy splitter)nearly replaced the hydraulic splitter? I really want to try one but won't buy one till I try it first. Anybody in central Ohio have one?

I bet it has to do with the fast cycle time being dangerous, lack of being able to tow it easily, and the price. It is hard to convince someone they need a 3k splitter when they can get the "top of the line" splitter at TSC for about half.

These are the treads that I like to see. At the moment, I'm planning to drop the dough for a SS in May. The thought of a 4 way timberwolf tw2 has me questioning my decision a little bit. Can the SS be all that is cracked up to be? I hope so because I want to own this thing for 20+ years.:biggrinbounce2:

 

[sloth9669]

I am by no means defending the SS but I'll bet it costs less than half the TW5. Heck a guy could write in here his processor will blow us all away but again that would be comparing a 30K+ machine to a 3-6K machine. As with anything it cost more to faster.

whats a new ss go for ?

 

[epicklein22]

whats a new ss go for ?

http://www.supersplit.com/price.htm

 

[LoggerDoug]

I bet it has to do with the fast cycle time being dangerous, lack of being able to tow it easily, and the price. It is hard to convince someone they need a 3k splitter when they can get the "top of the line" splitter at TSC for about half.

These are the treads that I like to see. At the moment, I'm planning to drop the dough for a SS in May. The thought of a 4 way timberwolf tw2 has me questioning my decision a little bit. Can the SS be all that is cracked up to be? I hope so because I want to own this thing for 20+ years.:biggrinbounce2:

Ok guys! Here’s the scoop….

I did a lot of homework (research) before buying my super split. My two most important criteria were production and durability. My brother in laws friend has an SS and my brother in law has a hydraulic (not a timberwolf). My brother in law is saving for an SS to replace his hydraulic. Not because it is useless but because of production. They sell wood as well as split and deliver it and need to get it done quickly in order to make it pay off. Of course, a hydraulic is going to do anything a SS can do and vise versa in my opinion. This thread was not to bash the timberwolf or the SS. I was doing an essay on log splitters and was comparing the two. I know how quick I can split with the SS because I own one. I was curious to know how quick a cord could be split with the timberwolf for my comparison. I based the comparison on production ease of use and noise.

Just for FYI the super split won in the comparison based on production with the 10-second cycle time of the timberwolf and 2.5 second cycle of the SS.

The SS won the ease of use category for two reasons weight (the timberwolf weighs 475lbs compared to 445 of the Super split) and it is a little easier to move around by hand. The height comparison, the timberwolfs production table is 22" high and the SS's production table is 28" high. So the super split will be easier on the back for taller people like myself.

Lastly, they were compared on noise. The 5.5 horsepower Honda runs at 78 decibels at full throttle, and the 6.0 horsepower Subaru robin engine runs at 72 decibels at full throttle (Subaru has more power but makes less noise). Neither are bad technically because it takes 85 decibels before you can suffer hearing loss..... http://www.dangerousdecibels.org/

As for durability, I could not find any super splits for sale anywhere and I found tons of hydraulics, including timberwolfs for sale. That is why I turned to this forum before I bought a splitter. I trust that the guys on this site are going to give me their honest feedback on the products they own and or have used. I made my decision to buy the super split based on all of you. The guys buying super splits are not selling them that does speak volumes to most people, including me about performance and durability. I even asked where I could get parts if it brakes, and no one knew because everyone said their machine had never broke yet.

This by no means was done to make the timberwolf look less stout. I have no doubt they will both be very capable with all types of wood. I personally want something fast because I have 25 cords of full length oak and beech logs down that need to be cut and split and I am very busy, so time is of the essence for me. I personally have no problem with hydraulic splitters, they just were not fast enough for me, which prompted me to look for others.

 

[indiansprings]

Ah, you boys haven't seen cycle time yet, got to get back on the converted hay baler splitter, all I have to do is finish the wedge and install the motor, rest is complete, could get her up to around 80 strokes per minute if I could find someone to keep up, put plan on operating at around 10 strokes per minute.
Same principle as the super split, only going to be used for straight grained wood, no crotches or gnarly wood, hydraulic splitter can handle that. We've got her set up to be a belt drive, vs. pto, don't want the shock on the tractors pto system.