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Great guy's,! If you have pictures that ad's a little spice to your post's as well.
I will post some recent garage sale finds very soon.
Lawrence
 
That's true Jerry, but we did a lot of repair/alterations in existing houses, replacing cracked sections of pipe, redoing poorly poured lead joints, so we got exposed to a good deal of fumes. I repaired/repoured 4 lead joints at my old job, the others were looking on at amazement. I still have dad's old yarning/driving irons (offset ones too), and a few joint runners. I'm sure someday I'll pay the price for not only the exposure to lead fumes, but the asbestos and PCB's as well...

Couldn`t agree with you more, I was often exposed to harmful fumes and chemicals but I did not spend every day or all day long exposed to them, I suspect that even brief encounters have done damage to me and most other tradesmen of my age. I still do the odd lead joint on cast iron but lately try to use alternate means to repair or make new connections when doing plumbing, like MJ bands or using PC in place of yarn and lead.
The oddest iron I have used is the reverse driving iron where there was an obstruction and a regular offset iron could not be used.
Pioneerguy600
 
i found some woodworking tools in a box that has been sitting in our barn for, well, who knows how long.
it's getting sorta like an addiction finding old tools stuffed away around our farm :p

here's some pics

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Old Hand Tools of Gekkos

Gekko,you get the man of the hour award! Thanks for posting.Fantastic tools you have there.I with my limited tool knowledge can even identify some of them.I see a hand punch there,flush cut saw I believe,a possible couple of Zyliss vise turning pieces,auger bits and you have to love those old wooden planes!I guess your addiction to the old tools is somewhat like CAD, only it's TAD. HA HA LOL
Man I love it.Now we guy's on here have CAD and TAD.There is no hope for us!
Lawrence
 
Please Remember

Please remember to try and get others involved in this thread.I think this thread with the help from all of us could eventually go to where the Pioneer thread went.Hey now I'm gettin goosebumps.Crap I'm loosing it!
Thanks
Lawrence
 
Gekko,you get the man of the hour award! Thanks for posting.Fantastic tools you have there.I with my limited tool knowledge can even identify some of them.I see a hand punch there,flush cut saw I believe,a possible couple of Zyliss vise turning pieces,auger bits and you have to love those old wooden planes!I guess your addiction to the old tools is somewhat like CAD, only it's TAD. HA HA LOL
Man I love it.Now we guy's on here have CAD and TAD.There is no hope for us!
Lawrence

The saw in the third pic (I assume that's the one you're referencing?) actually looks to be a veneer saw used for making detailed cuts in very thin veneers, such as for making inlays on a desk or tabletop, or making relief cuts in "bubbled" water-damaged veneer so it can be glued down and re-flattened with an iron. I guess you could call it a flush-cut saw too since it can perform some of those tasks, though to me a flush-cut saw generally has an extremely thin, very flexible blade with no tooth set, like this Japanese saw:

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Brad Morgan

Okay Brad,I stand corrected!!I have a flush cut saw that I bought at Lee Valley,I think it's a Veritas, it too has a very flexible blade.
Lawrence
 
Okay Brad,I stand corrected!!I have a flush cut saw that I bought at Lee Valley,I think it's a Veritas, it too has a very flexible blade.
Lawrence

Not really a correction, since I did some reading around and I guess those are apparently also commonly referred to as flush-cut saws (or French flush-cut saws). I've been on the lookout for a nice old one at antique shops and yard sales but so far the right deal hasn't come along. I forgot to explain why they're ideal for veneer work though. The slightly curved cutting edges can start a very precise cut directly into the top of a piece of wood far away from the edges, such as the center of a tabletop or a door panel. Just try that sometime with a straight sawblade! How to use a veneer saw:

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(I am not associated with nor am I pimping Woodcraft Magazine or the saw in the video.)


I love those Japanese flush-cut and dovetail saws, even though I don't have either yet. They're so much easier to control because they cut on the pull stroke only, whereas most Western saws cut on the push stroke. They don't cut as fast because you can't get as much power behind the cutting stroke, but they don't tend to bind or jump out of the cut either. I also find it easier to stop the cut stroke more precisely when pulling, but that's just me.

I spent most of today working on the knife grinder. I did a final paint prep - blasted a few areas I couldn't get with the knotted wire wheel, and then wiped everything down with some TSP degreaser to make sure it was good and clean. Here's how everything looks after two coats of paint:

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I just used some Primer Gray Tremclad rust paint, with a healthy dose of some Gloss Black rust paint mixed in to darken it a fair bit, to try to get close to the original darker gray that was on it already. I think I could have gone a shade or two darker, but it's pretty close, and there's no way to know for sure now! I've had really good luck with this Tremclad rust paint on old sand-cast stuff like this - it just seems to stick to the rough surface tighter than, well, "paint to a wall" as my old man would say. :) This is the first time I've sprayed it with a gun though; before I always just bought a rattle can or two. Considering I can get a quart for less than the price of a can though, and since I have a good compressor and a couple (not-so-good) sprayguns, I figured it was worth a go. I couldn't find the color I wanted in a can anyway. I think I've got the basics figured out now - it went a LOT better than my poor attempt at spraying the old dust collector a few weeks back. (FYI this paint likes Mineral Spirits a lot more than Lacquer Thinner, at least for spraying.)

Overall I think everything looks pretty good, though I'll have to give it another inspection and probably a couple touch-ups here and there. Assuming it's all good, it'll be Sunday before I have time to get to the re-assembly though.:censored: The only other task will be to modify the motor mounting plate to accept a much smaller modern single-phase motor rather than the 3-phase 1HP dinosaur that was on it. Right now I have the 1HP 1725 RPM motor that I swapped out of my tablesaw that I could use and which is the likely candidate, or I also have a 3HP 3450 RPM, though I think it's a compressor motor and is CCW non-reversible. I'll have to check back on that one. My bench grinder is only 1/2 HP though, so 1HP should be a nice bump up. I'm always looking at the scrapyard for more motors to resurrect though, so who knows what will turn up to use on it.

I also need to overhaul the mag starter that was in the motor switchbox. I'm not convinced it's usable anymore since it's pretty corroded. Even if that's the case, I should be able to find stuff to rebuild it at the mill without much difficulty. I don't know for sure, but I don't see why one couldn't use a three-phase Mag to start a single-phase 240V motor; one leg would just be unused or shunted to ground. I'll have to ask my cousin. I'm pretty sure I'd have to switch out the heater(s) though, because the single-phase motor will pull a lot more current across the mag than a 440V 3-phase.
 
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Brad Morgan

GEEEZZZZ! That's a fine looking job you have done there Brad,way to go!Remember if there is anything you want me to keep an eye out for let me know.I will check out Princess Auto for those wheels.Brad I have this saw from Lee Valley that you can also buy the mitre station for it,It's made by TOPMAN TOOLS
http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=32923&cat=1,42884,42924&ap=1
Lawrence
 
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GEEEZZZZ! That's a fine looking job you have done there Brad,way to go!Remember if there is anything you want me to keep an eye out for let me know.I will check out Princess Auto for those wheels.
Lawrence

Thanks eh! I have the basics for woodworking and grease-monkeying tools, though I naturally need (want) upgrades on many, but I'm pretty much down to setting myself up with metalworking/machining equipment, specifically a small metal lathe and milling machine, though I'm sorely lacking in cash for either right now. The guys at the scrapyard have standing orders to put anything even resembling a lathe off to the side for me, but that's a long shot. Two enormous, and I do mean enormous, like 12' bed, 18" swing, metal lathes were scrapped there last year, which was a shame, but it's not like I could have done anything with them anyway! Just the headstock would have tested my brother's big diesel's suspension, and residential three-phase power is nonexistent up here.
 
Manufacturer of Wrenches/Sockets Etc.

Without getting nasty lets see what kind of response this brings.Which manufacturer of non power tools, examples,wrenches,sockets, ratchets,screwdrivers do you like the best and why.It could be price,ergonomics,availability,warranty(return policy).This should draw a few in besides us regulars.
Lawrence
 
Without getting nasty lets see what kind of response this brings.Which manufacturer of non power tools, examples,wrenches,sockets, ratchets,screwdrivers do you like the best and why.It could be price,ergonomics,availability,warranty(return policy).This should draw a few in besides us regulars.
Lawrence

That's a tough question for me to lay an answer on Pete. I've bought most of my hand tools at yard sales and flea markets, so I have a odd collection of different brands.

I do enjoy the feel of a smooth wrench as opposed to one with a raised logo, (like Craftsman's).

The best screwdrivers I have used would have to be those made by Klein Tools.

Most of the ratchet and socket sets I own are Stanley Brand from Walmart, I've been using these for years with great success.

Price has always been an issue for me. I worked as a carpenter running a small business most of my life. The tools of my trade always came first, and cost quite a bit, so the tools I used in my home shop had to be affordable.
 
That's a tough question for me to lay an answer on Pete. I've bought most of my hand tools at yard sales and flea markets, so I have a odd collection of different brands.

I do enjoy the feel of a smooth wrench as opposed to one with a raised logo, (like Craftsman's).

The best screwdrivers I have used would have to be those made by Klein Tools.

Most of the ratchet and socket sets I own are Stanley Brand from Walmart, I've been using these for years with great success.

Price has always been an issue for me. I worked as a carpenter running a small business most of my life. The tools of my trade always came first, and cost quite a bit, so the tools I used in my home shop had to be affordable.
+ 1 on the yardsales......that's where most of my stuff came from. I figure if somone used a wrench for x number of years and it didn't break, it must be good quality.
I got a set of stanley 3/8 drive deep sockets at wally world for like 6 bucks on the clearance rack. Been using them for a couple years now.
Klein screwdrivers are no doubt good, that's all the electricians around here will use, but they are crazy expensive in canada, upwards of 15 bucks for one screwdriver at a local electrical wholesale place. :confused::confused:

I really never understood people who buy brand new wrenches,etc. There is so much of that stuff out there second hand, even around here.
No bling factor I guess.

I would probably think different if I made my living with them.........

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When it comes to automotive and heavy machinery, nothing but the best will survive long. Snap On, Blue Point, Gray Bonnie, and Armstrong have helped me make a living. Proto, Challenger and the latest offerings from Cdn. Tire like their professional line would be great even for the Homeowner/weekend mechanic.
Pioneerguy600
 
I agree with Jerry, but people have been having a lot of trouble with can. tire warranty around here.
If you don't have the original receipt from the tool, ........no warranty.So if you bought a set of wrenches in 1984 with lifetime warranty, if you don't have the sales slip from 1984, they won't honor the warranty.
Lot's of people are pissed at this.I don't know if this applies everywhere, or just locally, but the local canadian tire store has sure suffered because of it.

Poor way to do business, IMO.
 
I like mastermind and daddy66 have mostly garage sale finds and hand me downs, which are an assortment of brands.I have however bought some wrenches and sockets new they being Westward and Jet.One of the local tool stores usually has Blackhawk and another brand on sale quite often.Jerry I have heard nothing but great things about Proto.Too bad about the Canadian Tire line as I have hear that the Mastercraft Maximum are pretty good for the do it yourself-er.I also heard that Sears is getting sticky about the craftsman line up.Is this true? I could not even think of new SnapOn.
Lawrence
 
Old hand tools

I have personally found, that the older the hand-tool, the better. So flea markets, garage sales, estate sales, auctions, pawn shops, farmers markets, etc, lend themselves to being a good spot to find quality tools.

My dad has a pair of dikes (diagonal cutters) that are waaay older than I am, and built like a freaking tank. They sing through two strand barbed wire like it's not even there. . . Where a 'newer' pair would dent and dull.

Old Crapsman, Sears, etc are great. . . And when you're buying them used, you aren't hardly paying anything for them. Good forged tools are hard to beat!

One of my favorites is the 'mystery box' at an auction. You might see a hammer in there you want -- so that's what you bid on. Five bucks later you have a box of misc goodies to go with your hammer. :D
 
Without getting nasty lets see what kind of response this brings.Which manufacturer of non power tools, examples,wrenches,sockets, ratchets,screwdrivers do you like the best and why.It could be price,ergonomics,availability,warranty(return policy).This should draw a few in besides us regulars.
Lawrence

Snap On for all the above reasons, except price + flank drive design holds fasteners better with little or no slip. My Snap On guy asks no ?'s when it comes to warranty of any kind. Even if I just don't like the tool, He'll take it back for full credit. A C
 

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