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Just talked to the inspector. He's coming out Wednesday morning.
He asked me to email him some pictures.

He said something odd - that because of the timeframe, it's unlikely there would be any chemical left in the soli or plants to detect. Said best to test the first week or two. He didn't have an answer when I asked him how to do that when the visual symptoms don't appear until after that time.
Anywoo, nothing to do now but wait some more.
 
Just talked to the inspector. He's coming out Wednesday morning.
He asked me to email him some pictures.

He said something odd - that because of the timeframe, it's unlikely there would be any chemical left in the soli or plants to detect. Said best to test the first week or two. He didn't have an answer when I asked him how to do that when the visual symptoms don't appear until after that time.
Anywoo, nothing to do now but wait some more.
I'm thinking a good lab would be able to determine what is killing your stuff. Here's some pics of a white oak tree that I sprayed with roundup with a surfactant. I didn't spray one side of it because it is hanging over my lawn. Pics of sprayed and unsprayed leaves.This was sprayed 1 week ago.
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Just talked to the inspector. He's coming out Wednesday morning.
He asked me to email him some pictures.

He said something odd - that because of the timeframe, it's unlikely there would be any chemical left in the soli or plants to detect. Said best to test the first week or two. He didn't have an answer when I asked him how to do that when the visual symptoms don't appear until after that time.
Anywoo, nothing to do now but wait some more.
You are an eyewitness to them over spraying now an investigation as to what they claim to have used needs to happen and document it. You are wasting time the Police should have been called the first day and documented this. Stop waiting and get after the offender.
 
Just talked to the inspector. He's coming out Wednesday morning.
He asked me to email him some pictures.

He said something odd - that because of the timeframe, it's unlikely there would be any chemical left in the soli or plants to detect. Said best to test the first week or two. He didn't have an answer when I asked him how to do that when the visual symptoms don't appear until after that time.
Anywoo, nothing to do now but wait some more.
Sue him too and keep a record of that stupid statement if you have it on text . They are incompetent !
 
Being a government employee, the Dept of Ag guy is probably well protected from any civil suit. I wouldn't be so sure about the herbicide testing, either. There are a lot of different labs for that kind of thing, but he's probably using a University lab. He might also have a real good idea as to what tests they can do, and how well the results turn out.

Don't be so quick to condemn everybody. It's best to let them hang themselves. Just be ready in the meanwhile.

Speaking of being ready, consider sending in your own samples. While I have never sent them any herbicide tests, these guys have a broad range of tests, and have been doing my soil samples for about 30 years.
https://midwestlabs.com/environmental
 
Being a government employee, the Dept of Ag guy is probably well protected from any civil suit. I wouldn't be so sure about the herbicide testing, either. There are a lot of different labs for that kind of thing, but he's probably using a University lab. He might also have a real good idea as to what tests they can do, and how well the results turn out.

Don't be so quick to condemn everybody. It's best to let them hang themselves. Just be ready in the meanwhile.

Speaking of being ready, consider sending in your own samples. While I have never sent them any herbicide tests, these guys have a broad range of tests, and have been doing my soil samples for about 30 years.
https://midwestlabs.com/environmental
I called them and they only test for needed amendments to the soil.
She did give me the number to Columbia Labs, who she thought might be able to help

Also called my ins. company. Waiting for them to call back.
 
Got information from Columbia
$285 will test for 130 herbicides including dicamba and 2-4-D
An additional $205 to test for glyphosate

However, before she gave me this info, I told her what the inspector said about the timeframe and she kind of agreed, without actually saying so.
https://www.columbialaboratories.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/16/2020/09/COC_Food_C024_COC_R2.04.pdf
So, for a mere $490 I can take a gamble on them actually finding anything... or just take the word of the inspector.
 
I called them and they only test for needed amendments to the soil.
She did give me the number to Columbia Labs, who she thought might be able to help

Also called my ins. company. Waiting for them to call back.
Send the Police to the offending sprayers farm to investigate what chemicals were used so it is on the record. You need documentation. Dont wait.
 
Hmmm......there seems to be enough damage to go around.....Maybe its time you started to collect and preserve some samples yourself for future use. Get some soil from various places where the plants have been affected, some leaves from the plants, etc. Store them in UV blocking containers and keep them stored in a dark dry place. Make sure you record exactly where the samples came from and when you collected them.
Also, aside from testing from toxins, find out if the labs test for other things such as surfactants or drift control agents. If the toxins have degraded past detection thresholds, maybe the other stuff in the mix might still be there. Thats just as relevant....
 
So, for a mere $490 I can take a gamble on them actually finding anything... or just take the word of the inspector.
Well, here's the thing.....if you don't want to go the distance, don't get in the race. Either you want this resolved or you don't....
Remember the immortal words of Yoda-
Do or do not. There is no try.
 
I called them and they only test for needed amendments to the soil.
She did give me the number to Columbia Labs, who she thought might be able to help

Also called my ins. company. Waiting for them to call back.

I'm not sure how you got that answer from them. You must have reached the janitor in the soil lab.
They offer many hundreds of tests, including gas chromatograph for a multitude of herbicides and insecticides. Is OK, though.
Columbia is a bit cheaper for the roundup test than Midwest Labs, and they Midwest has not yet responded to me regarding the Dicamba test. The broad spectrum screening for herbicides sounds like a better deal as well, although Midwest does most of their chromatograph tests for $150.00. But that's for a single herbicide!
 
Just talked to my ins. agent.
His advice was to wait for confirmation from the inspector.
Once confirmed, I need to then contact the farmer and discuss damages.
His insurance would send out someone to survey damage. (He said "that's what they have ins. for) ...heck probably same insurance company as I have.

I am not going to call the police. It's after the fact and I have no direct evidence that points to anyone specific.
Contacting him personally will likely get better results than sending the po-po after him

Like my attorney friend said, give him the opportunity to make things right Before proceeding with legal action.
If it comes to that, there's no one I trust more than her for legal advice.

I do like the idea of gathering my own evidence - just in case, for down the road, should it go to court.
Guess I'll get busy.
 

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