tree removal across roof

[echochimp]

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hope the picture comes out ok. need a little advice on this one. the tree is laying across the corner of my friends roof and the top is hung in the tree on the far end of the house. the stump split and barberchaired in last nights storm here. whats the best way to get the top out of this withouth releasing too much weight onto the house? the tree looks to be mostly supported by its' top right now....could be wrong. either way he got lucky. thanks!

 

[KenJax Tree]

Can't really give advice without standing there looking at the situation. My advice is to call someone a lot can go wrong really fast right there. Its gonna cost money but its cheaper than a life or a house.

 

[Gologit]

Can't really give advice without standing there looking at the situation. My advice is to call someone a lot can go wrong really fast right there. Its gonna cost money but its cheaper than a life or a house.

Yup.

 

[beastmaster]

I don't know how much experience you have, if its little or none just have it done, but it doesn't look that difficult. You have to watch out for all the pressure points or you'll be surprised then it does something really fast. If you have a pole saw you can start relieving some weight on the ends. Watch for what it does when you remove weight. Does it start to lift? Not being there its hard to tell for sure what your up against, but I would maybe be tempted to cut it down where it makes contact with the roof. This is vary dangerous. It can barber chair because of all the weight forward, so fast you won't see it coming. The branches should cushion the short fall to the roof. If it goes perfect you can slow cut it tell it makes contact. That way you can just buck it up on the roof and toss er down.

 

[Tree Pig]

I don't know how much experience you have, if its little or none just have it done, but it doesn't look that difficult. You have to watch out for all the pressure points or you'll be surprised then it does something really fast. If you have a pole saw you can start relieving some weight on the ends. Watch for what it does when you remove weight. Does it start to lift? Not being there its hard to tell for sure what your up against, but I would maybe be tempted to cut it down where it makes contact with the roof. This is vary dangerous. It can barber chair because of all the weight forward, so fast you won't see it coming. The branches should cushion the short fall to the roof. If it goes perfect you can slow cut it tell it makes contact. That way you can just buck it up on the roof and toss er down.

Very hard to tell from the pics but it looks like the tree is not that big and is near the end of the house. If you have a tree off to the side of the house strong enough you may be able to put a pulley up in it and lift the tree off the roof, then swing it off and lower it to the ground. This would depend on your skill level and having appropriate equipment (meaning ropes, pulley, come along or mechanical advantage device all rated for the job) along with the ability to set the rope in both trees safely.

If you have to stop and think about whether you have the ability or knowledge to do this then the answer is most likely no and like mentioned get someone that does.

 

[B Harrison]

A tree service will most likely pull it up and away,
As a contractor i have seen a few of these and its not that bad as long as you have the equipment and experience to handle it. If you are taking pictures and asking that leans towards you not being ready to tackle something like this.

Here is the skinny.

Early before the roof heats up get up there and cut loose some limbs with someone there to catch them and carry them off the roof. Watch lz and don't drop them where they hit the house.
If you can reach it from the roof buck it up from the top down, if not call help.

Help could be a wrecker, to pull the tree back off the house then lay it down in the yard (not as easy as it sounds, must have two pulling points and secure the base of the tree)
Help should be a tree service who is insured, or a contractor who works with an insured tree service and can also fix your gutter, roof, and facia. While hes there get an estimate on a drain system to relieve moisture from the front of the house. Well your friend, not you.

You could also put a step ladder across the peak of the roof and drop the remaining section onto a couple used tires, but who knows what its going to destroy when it rolls off them.

Homeowners insurance will pay to have this tree removed so he best bet for all involved is calling a tree service or two.

 

[echochimp]

thanks all for the replies....first off i do have the necessary equipment. im seeing what you guys are seeing as far as pictured. his wife took these this morning and i havent been by there myself to look at it. if i remember correctly theres a tree above that can be used to lift this off the roof....by my best memory the tree is maybe 14~16 DBH but pretty tall. funny thing is, thats the live one we werent as concerned with. theres another just out of the picture thats 3 times the size and completely dead. been planning that one for a good while now. i like beastmasters idea for letting it down slowly...i was even thinking to snag an old mattress or something for the roof peak. ill go over there in a bit and have a look. thanks again!!

 

[KenJax Tree]

A tree service will most likely pull it up and away,
As a contractor i have seen a few of these and its not that bad as long as you have the equipment and experience to handle it. If you are taking pictures and asking that leans towards you not being ready to tackle something like this.

Here is the skinny.

Early before the roof heats up get up there and cut loose some limbs with someone there to catch them and carry them off the roof. Watch lz and don't drop them where they hit the house.
If you can reach it from the roof buck it up from the top down, if not call help.

Help could be a wrecker, to pull the tree back off the house then lay it down in the yard (not as easy as it sounds, must have two pulling points and secure the base of the tree)
Help should be a tree service who is insured, or a contractor who works with an insured tree service and can also fix your gutter, roof, and facia. While hes there get an estimate on a drain system to relieve moisture from the front of the house. Well your friend, not you.

You could also put a step ladder across the peak of the roof and drop the remaining section onto a couple used tires, but who knows what its going to destroy when it rolls off them.

Homeowners insurance will pay to have this tree removed so he best bet for all involved is calling a tree service or two.

A ladder over the peak of the house while running a chain saw?!?!?!:msp_w00t:

 

[beastmaster]

Don't make it harder then it has to be. There's nothing hard about that tree. The overhang on the roof already took most the impact and looks fine. I might climb up the trunk and cut off all the brush. Does it over hang the house? Those skinny branches in the top 1/3 of the tree won't hurt nothing if you cut and drop them. Use some of them to make a bed and drop some longer sections into the bed on the roof. You could problably cut them and have some one grab them.
So long as there isn't no short broking branches or stubs on the bottom of the trunk you'll be alright unless it's a decrepit roof. You could, but use common sence, cut it about 4 ft up from the ground, from the top and let her rip. it should open up as you cut down.
How ever you do it, be carefull but don't get to crazy. As far as trees laying on roofs go,this ones nothing to get excited about.

 

[woodchuck357]

I keep sheets of plywood for the sole purpose of protecting windows and roofs

with a tree this small I would secure some 1 inch thick sheets on both sides of the roof under the tree, remove all limbs, rope the top and pull it while cutting it off with a pole saw, run a rope from another tree to the stem that is left put a wide notch near the edge of the roof and cut down from the top slowly as helper eases the stem onto the plywood covered roof. Then pull the trunk that is left back away from the house then pull it side ways parallel to the side of the house.

 

[StrataTree]

Huh...Wha..?

It may even be easier than that.

Plywood and tires...tools of the trade!

 

[woodchuck357]

Might be easier, but I never cause ANY damage to buildings when I remove trees

Huh...Wha..?

It may even be easier than that.

Plywood and tires...tools of the trade!

Often need to repair dents in the yard, however!

 

[CanopyGorilla]

Yeah, the tree isn't big. If you have equipment remove some weight from the top and pull er' off.

 

[Stayalert]

you need those guys with the chain and sedan...They could launch that thing offa da house!

seriously...I'd be thinking about what some of the others have said - pole saw off everything you can reach, If the top is holding it up, rig the stem to take the weight from the top - take small bites - doesn't look to tough from my house.....I would hesitate to climb up that stem - just can't see any reason to.....

 

[Stayalert]

besides...That house needs some more natural light....IE skylights!

 

[StrataTree]

Often need to repair dents in the yard, however!

I scuffed a deck railing once! HO gave me a beer and said nice bleepin job! He didn't give a crap.

Dents in the yard...that's a daily occurrence. Let the landscaper fix 'em... Like another poster said on another thread I think, I like to warn that some damage might occur and it will be messy...then do none and clean up perfectly=happy customers.

 

[treemandan]

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hope the picture comes out ok. need a little advice on this one. the tree is laying across the corner of my friends roof and the top is hung in the tree on the far end of the house. the stump split and barberchaired in last nights storm here. whats the best way to get the top out of this withouth releasing too much weight onto the house? the tree looks to be mostly supported by its' top right now....could be wrong. either way he got lucky. thanks!

If you don't know then you shouldn't go. That would be you I am referring to.

Looks like you can set a line in another tree to support the fallen tree but that is complicated, you need the right tools. That would easily solve the problem but even if you can't:




You might have a chance of getting on the roof and cutting all the limbs off that you can with out cutting one that is under pressure. A pole saw would be good for the higher stuff.

It looks like its a little hung up where the forked top is, probably just resting and by getting all the limbs off you have slowly removed weight and made it possible to get a better of idea of what will happen when you do something.I would get the trunk as clean as I could, the less sharp and heavy then better.


Then is nothing else was in contact and under pressure except at the gutter and the forked top I would use a pole saw to undercut where the fork off the top in little pieces so that any movement would be minimal and also could be checked. If you could get everything off to the point where its just the gutter supporting the weight and it was still safe you could keep cutting small portion from the top til you got to the gutter and then could push it off. You might be able to lower pieces off the trunk itself and have some helpers to control it down and toss it off the roof.

 

[B Harrison]

A ladder over the peak of the house while running a chain saw?!?!?!:msp_w00t:

I guess I spend so much time on lifts and in ladders I take for granted other people aren't so used to them. He would need a sky hook to be tied off to, but it could work.

 

[echochimp]

ok here are some more pictures of the removal in process. my buddy ended up using a local tree co. to get this removal done. repeat, this is not me nor do i have anything to do with this job. all in all this just looks bad to me on so many levels. how many problems do we see with these pictures?

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[beastmaster]

I may of basically done it the same way, but with out the boom truck(only because I don't have one)climbing up the trunk. It looks a lot longer from that angle then I thought it was. I may of took smaller pieces on the side over hanging the roof. I would of been wearing my helmet too. I have no problem climbing up a falling tree on a roof, so long as I know its stable. Looks like they used the boom as much as they could from that angle then climbed out to finish it up. They break any thing? Probably only took a few hours start to finish.