Two More MS461s Go Under The Knife

[Mastermind]

I'm back from hunting trip and must say they look great!! now when do I get it back???:jester:

It leaves here Monday.

Merry Christmas.

 

[deye223]

any one have the number for the 460 coil
thanks in advance

 

[like2surf]

The Chinese are working on this model as I type......operators are standing by. :cool2:



It's a bolt on swap. I use a business card to space the coil....



I can't tell any difference in timing at all. It starts the same too.

Both Young's and Mike's saw have 200psi and the timing advanced .020 at the key.....you can start either of them without the decomp hot or cold.

I have over .030 squish on them as well.

I have a 461 that tree monkee worked. He put a 460 coil on it and left it there. No need to change back to the 461 coil. It starts cold or hot with no trouble at all. What a monster. The power is unreal.

 

[Trx250r180]

did you add a second exhaust port to these saws ?

 

[mtrees]

It leaves here Monday.

Merry Christmas.

Great thank you!!

 

[Mastermind]

did you add a second exhaust port to these saws ?

No I don't like adding deflectors. I can add a dual port cover if you want.....

 

[Trx250r180]

No I don't like adding deflectors. I can add a dual port cover if you want.....

thought they were kinda quiet ,that wood looks lot tougher to cut than stuff out here

 

[Mastermind]

thought they were kinda quiet ,that wood looks lot tougher to cut than stuff out here

Young's has a dual port cover and both openings are sorta large. Quiet?????

lol

 

[mtrees]

Young's has a dual port cover and both openings are sorta large. Quiet?????

lol

DP cover me

 

[Mastermind]

DP cover me

Done.....

 

[Slamm]

I would much rather have a port on the left hand side of the muffler now that I have run these 441CM's with a larger hole in the stock location. It is horrible. When making felling cuts, the exhaust gas just churns up the dirt around the base of the tree and about kills you. When you have a port on the left and the right, the exhaust gas goes straight up the tree trunk and doesn't sufficate you.

My experience on port locations.

Sam

 

[mtrees]

Done.....

Da Man!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Mastermind]

I would much rather have a port on the left hand side of the muffler now that I have run these 441CM's with a larger hole in the stock location. It is horrible. When making felling cuts, the exhaust gas just churns up the dirt around the base of the tree and about kills you. When you have a port on the left and the right, the exhaust gas goes straight up the tree trunk and doesn't sufficate you.

My experience on port locations.

Sam

I can see that......

I just hate deflectors installed with screws. Some rivet nuts may work to put a deflector on the left in some cases. These 461s would be a breeze to braze a nut in the shell......

That reminds me....I have more pics.

 

[Slamm]

We have taken a small piece of sheetmetal and just mig or tig welded it in place, but I just hawged the stock hole bigger on these latest 441's and that is fine for firewood cutting, but it doesn't work for having the saw horizontal and cutting trees down, because 100% of the exhaust is pushed into the dirt or root flare and it just smokes you out. With a big left side port, I wouldn't hardly smell the exhaust, because it shoots straight up the tree trunk and is blowing branch leaves about 12-15 feet in the air.

Sam

 

[Mastermind]

What's this???? Another one?

Some pics of the port work.....

Nothing radical.

 

[Mastermind]

We have taken a small piece of sheetmetal and just mig or tig welded it in place, but I just hawged the stock hole bigger on these latest 441's and that is fine for firewood cutting, but it doesn't work for having the saw horizontal and cutting trees down, because 100% of the exhaust is pushed into the dirt or root flare and it just smokes you out. With a big left side port, I wouldn't hardly smell the exhaust, because it shoots straight up the tree trunk and is blowing branch leaves about 12-15 feet in the air.

Sam

I've sent so many saws out to guys that have to have a screened exhaust that I've made it a point to try to always have a way to use a screen in each outlet that can be removed for cleaning. I'm getting better at figuring a way to braze on a deflector that has provisions for a slip in screen.....they do get time consuming though.

 

[Mastermind]

Some muffler mod pics on these 461s......

 

[young]

Some muffler mod pics on these 461s......

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man, iam lazy. ill just get this lol

 

[Mastermind]

man, iam lazy. ill just get this lol

Yer Muff is rusty. :msp_w00t:

 

[young]

Yer Muff is rusty. :msp_w00t:

its that time of the........nevermind. :wink2: