Two-Stroke Oils: All the Same?

[jellyroll]

I was going to say , I have personally witnessed spontaneous combustion from wet straw being stored improperly on more than one occasion !

Milled corn and grain products produce dust.

 

[North by Northwest]

Hey guys , we certainly have hijacked the chit out of this oil thread , again . P S. Before you say anything Ben , yeah it's mostly my memory lane fault brother !

 

[North by Northwest]

Milled corn and grain products produce dust.

Oh a milling operation , what's that qualify you for white lung ?

 

[jellyroll]

Hey guys , we certainly have hijacked the chit out of this oil thread , again . P S. Before you say anything Ben , yeah it's mostly my memory lane fault brother !

This topic has been beat to death talk about anything you want.

 

[jellyroll]

Oh a milling operation , what's that qualify you for white lung ?

No milling just storage it is a large farming operation i am one five full time employees.

 

[North by Northwest]

No milling just storage it is a large farming operation i am one five full time employees.

Used for the farm it self as livestock or chicken feed Jake or for eventual sale ?

 

[jellyroll]

Used for the farm it self as livestock or chicken feed Jake or for eventual sale ?

Used on the farm use a standard blend of crushed corn and molasses medicated with rumensin.

 

[bwalker]

I'am with you on that bullet composition . Mustang Mike just converted me last year to Barnes TTSX all copper for my .378 Weatherby . I had previously been a avid Hornaday partition user for Moose , Deer , Elk & Caribou . Unfortunately I have to add octane boost on my Dyna because of it forged Manley Pistons & new Andrews Cam , but that's another story !

I have used the Barnes X, XLC, TSX, TTSX and now LRX. I have also used the Nosler Etip and Hornady GMX. The TSX and latter Barnes are easy to get to shoot. The others not so much. They all work about the same, which is to say not as well as lead and copper bullets in terms of abrupt kills. The do penetrate very well and most often you get two holes. I've only recovered a few one is pictured here with the elks ivory next to it. The other was an etip recovered from a deer I shot at 6oo yards and change with a 270 winchester.

 

[bwalker]

I was going to say , I have personally witnessed spontaneous combustion from wet straw being stored improperly on more than one occasion !

I've seen hay do that when bailed too wet.
And of cours working at a coal plant we always had bunker fires in the spring due to wet coal

 

[North by Northwest]

Nice cobtrokked expansion

I've seen hay do that when bailed too wet.
And of cours working at a coal plant we always had bunker fires in the spring due to wet coal

We had coal bunkers on #1 #2 & #3 boilers . Had been decomissioned for yrs when i arrived . No fires lol.

 

[bwalker]

Nice cobtrokked expansion

We had coal bunkers on #1 #2 & #3 boilers . Had been decomissioned for yrs when i arrived . No fires lol.

Never fun. Used 40' piercing rods with a solution of stuff that's a sort of like dish soap. Can't use water as it channels and gives the fire more oxygen. A godsend was when they bought us a thermal imaging camera at my advice. Then you could look at the outside of the Bunker and determine where the fire was. Then we would go up to the top gear up and in SCBA's and try to stop the smoldering with the piercing rods. Once we got it cooled off we would run the bunker out, hose off any coal deposited on the walls and hopefully that would get us a few weeks down the road before it happens again!

 

[North by Northwest]

Never fun. Used 40' piercing rods with a solution of stuff that's a sort of like dish soap. Can't use water as it channels and gives the fire more oxygen. A godsend was when they bought us a thermal imaging camera at my advice. Then you could look at the outside of the Bunker and determine where the fire was. Then we would go up to the top gear up and in SCBA's and try to stop the smoldering with the piercing rods. Once we got it cooled off we would run the bunker out, hose off any coal deposited on the walls and hopefully that would get us a few weeks down the road before it happens again!

Yeah , we had similar issues within our Cokemaking Production areas , were Coke breeze or fines would cause similar flare ups or smoldering issues within Conveyor belt junction houses . ( level vertical elevation incline) changes within horizontal inclined belted conveyor lines . That moved aggregate from the coal docks to the operating area . Often Coke dust , could & eventually would accumulate & could cause concern of a lel (lower explosive limit) saturation point value . Which , often involved a spontaneous ignition & explosion of accumulated organic gases . I did over a 30 + yr tenure experience a few such incidents . Only , other explosive industrial incident I ever witnessed , was a underground Acetylene cargo line corridor leakage & resultant explosion . It , took out a complete railway line . It gave me a better sence , of confined space recognition & required preventative measures to prevent future issues or serious incidents of this Nature !

 

[North by Northwest]

Our crude isn't much lighter than Bunker C and only then because it's been diluted. Alberta tar sands oil.
Our clarified oil or main column bottoms is the same viscosity or heavier than Bunker C and is often sold as residual fuel on the west coast.
We have one boiler that still uses a steam injection burner, but we run it on plant fuel, which is refinery streams that can't be marketed and is slightly heavier than Nat gas. It's a bit of a trick lighting that ******* off in the winter as the steam tends to condense and it gives you a blast of condensate which knocks the burner out right after light off. As a result we block it in at the burner and blow the line out/ heat it up for a half Our prior to light off. Some times it works...some times it doesnt.

You likely do not have adequate insulating of your steam main lines or less then stellar drip pocket & steam traps sizing to effectively remove the condensation formation within you steam mains , prior to your steam injection points . Often drop pockets are not adequately sized to work as a cooling leg to ensure quick & effective removal of condensing steam which can be carried downstream & wreak havoc with operating equipment & instrumentation metering stations .

 

[jellyroll]

You likely do not have adequate insulating of your steam main lines or less then stellar drip pocket & steam traps sizing to effectively remove the condensation formation within you steam mains , prior to your steam injection points . Often drop pockets are not adequately sized to work as a cooling leg to ensure quick & effective removal of condensing steam which can be carried downstream & wreak havoc with operating equipment & instrumentation metering stations .

Condensation is not a problem but the output end of the condensers has about 10 inchs of vacuum on it and the lines stay clear once everything is warmed through.

 

[North by Northwest]

Condensation is not a problem but the output end of the condensers has about 10 inchs of vacuum on it and the lines stay clear once everything is warmed through.

I was replying to Mr Walker as to his Bunker C oil steam injection heaters , flame out issue Jake lol.

 

[jellyroll]

ok

 

[sean donato]

Man we jumped around quite a bit lol. Had a kawasaki kh 400 triple that was given to me with a sized center piston after high school. Rebuilt it. parts were a bugger to find back then. Rode it for a summer. Some guy saw me getting gas and mixing oil in at the gas station offered me $2k for it on the spot. Ended up selling it to him about a week later. Was a hard bike to ride imo, handling wasn't the best and how the power band hit so hard made it a real pain. My old man ran 750 triples back in the day and he said it was pretty gutless compared to his old 750. Can't say I was sad to see it go back then, but I wish I had it now.

 

[dmezzomo]

Lost of places clear out their sporting goods, marine and water sports with deep discounts on outboard motor oil.
Make sure the oil is for AIR cooled and NOT water cooled engines.

 

[sean donato]

The ttsx is one of my favorite bullets. I run them in several calibers now.

 

[dmezzomo]

Do not use marine oil in air cooled motors. Marine engines run at a constant temperature whereas air cooled engines are prone to overheating. Something to do with the amount of ash in the oil.