Vallorbe Racing Cut System

[B_Turner]

Howdy,
Here's a youtube video for the ATOP.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnW309wWqO0
Regards
Gregg

Makes me want to go out and buy a square grinder.


Oh wait, I already have one....

Now if the ATOP gizmo would do .325...

 

[Grande Dog]

Howdy,
It'll do .325 with a smaller file. I only received the ones for .375.
Regards
Gregg

 

[slnranger]

when

will they be availible for purchase?

 

[Grande Dog]

Howdy,
That's really the sixty four dollar question. I'm coming into this project later than most. I will do my best to get this product expedited. From reading the long history, I'm not ready to speculate on delivery times.
Regards
Gregg

 

[B_Turner]

Howdy,
It'll do .325 with a smaller file. I only received the ones for .375.
Regards
Gregg

square .325 might be a real sleeper.

 

[brncreeper]

Howdy,
Here's a youtube video for the ATOP.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnW309wWqO0
Regards
Gregg

Impressive video, makes me want one even more.

 

[Haywire Haywood]

No doubt that it is quicker.... but notice how fast they get the ATOP saw to the top and cutting the second cookie and notice the lag between cookies on their round ground video....

Ian

 

[parrisw]

No doubt that it is quicker.... but notice how fast they get the ATOP saw to the top and cutting the second cookie and notice the lag between cookies on their round ground video....

Ian

That doesn't matter though, notice the stop watch, they stop the clock each time a cut is finished, then started again when started.

 

[Haywire Haywood]

You're right... I didn't notice that...

Ian

 

[Stihl Crazy]

I have one here to play with, thanks to Grande Dog. Going to put it to the test in hardwood running against my regular work chains. I don't care how it stacks up to out of the box chains. Always file my new chains before they hit the wood.

20 plus years ago when I went to work for the local pulp company every new worker had to take the manditory safety/filing couse. First words out of the instructor mouth were, " if you think a new chain cuts you need this course". Second were " if an out of the box chain is faster than your filed chain, you definately need this course".

 

[parrisw]

What are these things worth??

 

[046]

vallorabe = vaporware

will they be availible for purchase?

 

[SWE#Kipp]

yes they will and relatively soon too, Goran is doing all that he possible can to get them to the US market first ,,, you can't buy them in Sweden yet either if that is of any comfort for you

 

[046]

oh sure... we really really want to believe you ... after one year of it's almost ready...
the story of the boy that cried wolf comes to mind

yes they will and relatively soon too, Goran is doing all that he possible can to get them to the US market first ,,, you can't buy them in Sweden yet either if that is of any comfort for you

 

[SWE#Kipp]

sorry that you feel that way,,,,,, and i don't blame you at all, guess i would have felt the same way
But for me it has been a short time left to the release of the guide but that might be so because i talked to Goran about this type of guide at approx 4 years ago.

But as mentioned above I don't blame you for the wolf feeling !

 

[brncreeper]

:censored:I guess I'll look for the Chinese copy.

 

[parrisw]

Anybody know final pricing on these?? I want faster chains, if it's pricey I might as well learn freehand square filing.

 

[24d]

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I have partly been informed by people who look at the various forums that the discussion about square ground sharpening is very exciting. This is just great, it show the amount of intertest we have out there. We seeing us as pretty "brave", beeing a small company 10 hrs flight from the huge US market. Then on top of this "attacking" the so "myth surronded" square ground filing. Hard to ask for any bigger challange.

To put even more excitment into the debate do we stick out saying. To do square ground sharpening is not that particiular difficult. Every logger with reasonable experience can do it, and become a real chain saw man. Every initiated logger has it"s on trick of setting filing agles, to carburettor setting, to own fuel mixture, etc,etc.

So have we as well. We have found that one of the secrets for open up high cutting performance from square ground sharpening is the vertical angel. About 80% of the total power input when cutting goes to cutting off the grains. The top plate is just "lifting off" the wood. An extreamly interestring observation I that even with "some damages" on the top plat does the chain still cut good/OK. That observation seems to undeline the important role the vertical angel is having.

Feel free to post above statement on the forum. My part is not to be active on the forum by debateing. I follow the debate as mutch as I have time to do,and appriciate and take all input from everybody into concideration.

Regards
Göran Carlström
ATOP AB.

 

[redprospector]

Pretty close.
In my opinion it's the corner where the two "angels" meet that does the cutting.
Of corse if he really has angel's on his chain, it should be faster and last longer than anything known to man. Being a mere mortal, I'm stuck using angle's on my chain.

Just kidding.

Andy

 

[Haywire Haywood]

corse

Course It's your native language Andy, sing it out! LOL