Vocabulary

[treemandan]

I was wondering what the proper term was ( or even if there was one) for lowering and tree off of another tree.

 

[Tree Pig]

I was wondering what the proper term was ( or even if there was one) for lowering and tree off of another tree.

remote location rigging?

 

[Blakesmaster]

I call it tip-tying the whole mutha ####a. But I'm not sure that's commonly accepted terminology.

 

[jefflovstrom]

I was wondering what the proper term was ( or even if there was one) for lowering and tree off of another tree.

Rigging. The specific's do not need to be in the name. If it needed a different name by using a near-by tree assist in a rig point, then other components in the rigging system should be in the name. Man, in some cases, that could be a big name!, bigger if your rigging types change in the big wood. Anyway "Rigging".
Jeff

 

[tree md]

We always called it hanging a tree.

 

[treeseer]

I used to call it an inverse removal in the hopes i would be paid more for doing somethong fancy.

 

[treemandan]

We always called it hanging a tree.

That's it! Good call. The phrase slipped my mind. I was working with another guy the other day and he told me he reffered to the technique as " AZTEC". Used in a sentence, "I am going to Aztec this tree"
The whole thing didn't really make much sense to me and I have been concerned about it ever since.

 

[treemandan]

Rigging. The specific's do not need to be in the name. If it needed a different name by using a near-by tree assist in a rig point, then other components in the rigging system should be in the name. Man, in some cases, that could be a big name!, bigger if your rigging types change in the big wood. Anyway "Rigging".
Jeff

You better believe the specifics matter!

 

[randyg]

I was wondering what the proper term was ( or even if there was one) for lowering and tree off of another tree.

Showing off or grand standing, unless it goes wrong and then it's just called a screw up.

 

[tree md]

Showing off or grand standing, unless it goes wrong and then it's just called a screw up.

One of the oldest tricks in the book bud. And one of the safest ways to bring one down.

 

[treemandan]

Showing off or grand standing, unless it goes wrong and then it's just called a screw up.

Yeah, its a standard practice. The only reason one would do it is because it would be the safest most practical way.

 

[treemandan]

Like Tree MD says.....I've always called it 'hanging a tree'. I'm not sure it's always the safest as often unknown forces are generated....but it sure is fast. I use it whenever possible sometimes hanging a tree from two separate trees using two porta-a-wraps or a porta and a GRCS.

Yes, the terminology slipped my mind. I don't know why this guy was calling it Aztec, I am having a hard time finding the correlation.
And as far as it going wrong, well, one should know before he Aztecs a tree. Last one we did was tiny but very practical and safe. If its not safe and practical I am not going to partake whether its hanging a tree or eating #####.

 

[pdqdl]

Ok. I'm sounding like a newbie here, but I have never done that.

Why bother? Are we talking about lowering one into the zone it would fall into anyway, or are we talking about tip tying it and cutting off chunks as it comes down a little at a time?

The latter method sounds like a great way to break the top out of an innocent bystander, making a disaster at the same time.

Please explain a good scenario for this. Maybe I have been missing out on a good trick.

 

[tree md]

The reason you have probably not seen it much PDQL is that it works best with pines. They often grow close together and are just made for hanging. Being that you live in a part of the country that is mostly hardwoods, I doubt it is SOP where you live.

If you have a bunch of pecker pole pines close together it is very quick and easy to climb up the biggest one, get your rigging line around at least two limbs, swing over and traverse to the neighboring tree, tie a running bowline and cut it from the ground. Zero ground damage and it comes down very quickly with minimal risk to a climber or to property. Just have your groundie lower it as you cut it in lengths as it comes down. The first two cuts are going to be under tension so you need to be experienced at cutting in those situations but once the neighboring tree catches the full weight the butt will be suspended and you can cut it to length with ease. Watch out and make sure you have room to lay it down once it starts to get top heavy. I wouldn't suggest doing it unless you have watched someone else and learned how to do it properly.

 

[pdqdl]

Well...That sounds easy enough.

Y'er right: not too many pine removals around here, except for the countless squat little austrian pines that died from diplodia tip blight. Oddly enough, the only white pine removals I get seem to be big and beautiful, taller than anything around them.

I have never cut down a "pecker pole" pine, and I don't think I have ever cut down any pines that were in a thicket. Hardwood country it is.

 

[TreEmergencyB]

We always called it hanging a tree.

:agree2:

 

[treeslayer]

June Pole.

 

[oldirty]

thought it was a gin pole.

 

[Nailsbeats]

It's known as choking the chicken around here. I'll use it in a sentence, "hey, you're really choking the chicken here, we could've dropped this pig already." end quoute.

For real though, the GRCS has a grand time doing the chicken choker.

 

[tree md]

A lot of the vocabulary has disappeared since I started out doing this gig. We used to rope trees down off of themselves by just butt hitching, using no block just a rope. We called it collaring one down.