Whatever you say... All I use and all I will EVER use. Synthetic or not is irrevelant to me. It works, has excellent shelf life and my saws run well on it. Far as cost, I don't care and I can well afford it. In my case it a requirement. You may be different and on that score, don't care either. I'm the captain of my ship, just like you pilot yours.
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Nice to know you're not concerned with accurate descriptions, or when to use a certain product or not.
All that concerns me is it works well for my application. If I had to be concerned with every little nuance, my shop would be bankrupt.
Thats great, just state it accurately, and your use type. Ffs I went through 25+ gallons of mix this year, only time any of the equipment is going to see canned fuel is the stuff going into storage over winter.
Not germane to what I require and I'm not into the technicalities of canned fuel and it's chemical attributes anyway. read on here somewhere that it's an alkyd or something so that is what I posted. I might use 25 gallons in 2 years, maybe. My saws are for basically yard work around the farm. Nothing more. I got out of the for hire arborist business decades ago and have no desire to go back to it. All that is left of that is my 028 and the 2 shelf queens, the 090- and the 075 that are devoid of gas and oil and sit collecting dust from the shop.
Only reason I grind chains for my customers is I grind their chipper knives and that is more of a make work thing for me anyway, plus it's cost effective for them in today's inflated market where everything is costing more but their customers always want to pay less.
The main impetus of the shop is short run machining and die repair and fabrication and welding and the welding and fab is mostly on articulated bucket loaders but we take on anything we are capable of and can do a first class job on.
I'm into the technical aspects of precision machining and exotic welding, not what fuel I fuel my saws with. If it works, don't turn to gum in the carbs from sitting for a protracted amount of time (and the do sit way more than a month or 2 without use)., I'm good with it and I use Red Armor 50-1 because my farm tractor dealer is an Echo dealer and I buy the fuel from him and of course it's sales tax free, as a farm related expense, just like the diesel I buy as well as everything else. I don't want to give the government anymore than I have to.
Have a nice day... I'm outta here, I have crops waiting to be harvested..
Only reason I grind chains for my customers is I grind their chipper knives and that is more of a make work thing for me anyway, plus it's cost effective for them in today's inflated market where everything is costing more but their customers always want to pay less.
The main impetus of the shop is short run machining and die repair and fabrication and welding and the welding and fab is mostly on articulated bucket loaders but we take on anything we are capable of and can do a first class job on.
I'm into the technical aspects of precision machining and exotic welding, not what fuel I fuel my saws with. If it works, don't turn to gum in the carbs from sitting for a protracted amount of time (and the do sit way more than a month or 2 without use)., I'm good with it and I use Red Armor 50-1 because my farm tractor dealer is an Echo dealer and I buy the fuel from him and of course it's sales tax free, as a farm related expense, just like the diesel I buy as well as everything else. I don't want to give the government anymore than I have to.
Have a nice day... I'm outta here, I have crops waiting to be harvested..
I use it and love it in all my saws and blowers. Interesting to me is that their pump gas also seems better. I used to fill up the mower cans at Quick Check. Even with an appropriate dose of Star-Tron, I'd have water in fuel issues as the season progressed. Then we moved and the closest station is a VP Racing station. Since only filling the mower cans there with the same dose of Star-Tron, no more water issues. I have not had to drain a carb bowl in a couple years at least. Last time I filled the cans I almost brought them to fill at a QC on my way home from work. Then I said you know, I've been having great luck with the VP gas so let me stick with that.
Alfa_Sam
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I've been using VP pre-mix for years, buy 40:1 and 50:1 in 5 gal cans. I use it as in all my equipment and collection. I can leave a saw on the shelf for several years and it will start no issue. And the 94 octane is good for my old Olympyk saws which run more compression than other saws. But the biggest reason to buy it is the smell, racing fuel mixed with 2 stroke oil takes me back to the 250 class at Road Atlanta, it would take about 3 laps for the smell to hit you, but when it did, nirvana!
Those were the days. I think it was less than $2/qt.
$1.58 for a qt can.
Jusgunn3
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I have been using it for a while now, started with the can stuff and moved to buying the mix at TSC and mixing my own. I can’t tell the difference but the smell is a little different id say. Maybe it’s the pump gas vs the Alkylate fuel?
I still have 20 + unopened cans of the gallon size . It’s shy of a gallon though . I’ve used about 15 cans so far
I can't remember how many quart and not gallons i bought last year, I know I filled the trunk of the jetta up. I still have about 5 gallons of 40 to 1 kicking around. All the quart cans of regular and mix gas are long gone from winterizing my stuff last year and working on others equipment. I'm hoping to catch that deal again this year. They went off around December if I remember correctly.
In the '80s I used to 1/4 mile a M/C and ran VP C16 in it - bought in 5g cans. One year it was the end on the season and I had over half a can left so I mixed up some fuel for the old, worn out 16" Homelite saw to cut up some firewood. I had access to a bunch of black locust and could select stuff that didn't need splitting. And I didn't need it until the following winter for anything green. You wouldn't believe how that old Homelite hogged through that locust - even the dead standing. It started easier and ran MUCH cooler. And I could lean into the cut more without stalling the chain and it was interesting that the cutters didn't dull as quickly because they were biting and not skidding during the cut. believe it or not.
So ever since, even after I quit racing, I would scare up some Cam2 or VP in a street grade for saw use. Obviously I am not the only one to have learned the advantage of real gasoline, not the lower BTU ethanol junk that is pump gas. It there is any problem it's that you might have to adjust the fuel screws a bit.
And it smells much better
So ever since, even after I quit racing, I would scare up some Cam2 or VP in a street grade for saw use. Obviously I am not the only one to have learned the advantage of real gasoline, not the lower BTU ethanol junk that is pump gas. It there is any problem it's that you might have to adjust the fuel screws a bit.
And it smells much better
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