What older model chainsaw has the most durable engine?

[pdqdl]

Derailments are common, and asking folks to return to topic is normal and welcome.

Don't worry about it. We will likely survive any amount of abuse. If it gets too carried away, there are ways to regulate things when folks break the rules or become abusive.

 

[HuskyShepherd2016]

Short answer: Because you asked.



Just sayin'

Short answer: Because you asked.



Just sayin'

Well I thought I asked which of the older saws have given folks the best durability over the years. I don’t remember asking anyone of their preference was older vs new. If I did, show me the post and I’ll take my medicine shot of embarrassment.

 

[Bill G]

Well if I’ve earned less respect from you, I’ll do what I can to earn it back.

You have quoted my post that was in reference to another fine member.

 

[Bill G]

Derailments are common, and asking folks to return to topic is normal and welcome.

Don't worry about it. We will likely survive any amount of abuse. If it gets too carried away, there are ways to regulate things when folks break the rules or become abusive.

Correct

 

[HuskyShepherd2016]

You have quoted my post that was in reference to another fine member.

 

[HuskyShepherd2016]

Did I do that wrong?

 

[pdqdl]

Can't say. What were you trying to accomplish?

I suspect your post is missing some details you wished to include. Consider editing it.

 

[HuskyShepherd2016]

Can't say. What were you trying to accomplish?

I suspect your post is missing some details you wished to include. Consider editing it.

I’m going back and re reading.

 

[HuskyShepherd2016]

Well I see this thread has become active again. I am glad to see that.

To @HuskyShepherd2016 My opinion (which I am entitled to have)is I think you may be a little confused about the fine members on this site and the collective amount of real life experience they share. Lets review your above post....... I will bold some key points and number them but not alter the content in anyway.

1. Well I have read your comments and you have been just as snide as any ..refer to your above quote.
2. Just because you created the post does not mean you run or control the conversation. The content is ran by the fine members and moderated by moderators. Not one single member controls the conversation. The conversation ebbs and flows in all sorts of directions. Just because it is not flowing in the direction you feel it should does not give you (or any member) the right to attempt to control it.
3. No one is imposing anything on anyone and disrespect is subjective.
4. Once again it is no single member's right to control the direction of the thread.
5. Things were fine before you, I or any other member ever posted in this thread or any other thread.

Sir,

I have been a mener here over 21 years and have seen the countless changes in how the site is structured and how it has evolved. I have met online and in person countless great men and women on this site. Some I agreed with and some I did not. I do not think I ever met or conversed with a single person on this site that I fully agreed with in every subject and I bet most all would say the same. There are some that have posted in this thread that I have went back and forth with many times on one specific point but then agreed on the next. That is the nature of conversations. I respect them and value their opinion even though we will never agree on a specific point. I would hate to know someone I agreed with on everything.

Now I would love to see this thread continue to build but on a side note if you want to get into some real heated discussions become a supporting member and join the Political and Religion area. We have some heated threads there and I am in the middle of a bunch.

Bill

Well if I’ve earned less respect from you, I’ll do what I can to earn it back.

 

[HuskyShepherd2016]

You have quoted my post that was in reference to another fine member.

Ok I think I fixed it.

 

[HuskyShepherd2016]

Can't say. What were you trying to accomplish?

I suspect your post is missing some details you wished to include. Consider editing it.

I was trying to tell Bill something in acknowledgment. I think I got it.

 

[Bill G]

Well if I’ve earned less respect from you, I’ll do what I can to earn it back.

You have not earned any more or any less respect from me. This is a great site for sharing ideas and experiences on a plethora of topics. We will never all agree and if we did then what would be the point of discussion. I post memes in the P/R thread but not so much in a saw thread. I have to say this one might fit. If we all agreed it would be like this........ BORING

 

[HuskyShepherd2016]

You have not earned any more or any less respect from me. This is a great site for sharing ideas and experiences on a plethora of topics. We will never all agree and if we did then what would be the point of discussion. I post memes in the P/R thread but not so much in a saw thread. I have to say this one might fit. If we all agreed it would be like this........ BORING

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I have a best friend that when he was 16, our shop teacher said was a Brumhauer in his larval stage. Fast forward two and a half decades, he looks and talk’s exactly like him.

 

[bwalker]

You are the one that made it subjective and a debate. "New saws are made to be disposable." "Better weight, and av and speed, but not made to be reliable."
To which I say prove it, time and time again you sight well they are still around. Tell you what, let's regroup in about 40 years and see how the "vintage" saw landscape looks. It will looks much the same it does now, just with the saws you touted as junk and made to be thrown away. Well have issues getting parts for the saws from the 90's just like we have problems getting parts for saws from the 70's now. You really should go and reread what your saying, it's been nothing but derogatory to newer equipment and most of it has been false.

This is exactly right.
I still maintain the old stuff is junk and I have zero interest in it. Just like I have zero interest in square body GM trucks, which were likewise junk, yet still have old guys lusting for them.

 

[Wood Doctor]

is that a 610? 650? Timber Bear?

That's the Mac 610 Timber Bear. Still runs very well. A bit heavy, yes, but not much plastic on it. I've pulled a 28" bar with it, but I usually just run a 20" as shown. Lots of torque. It was the first Mac that I ever bought. I still have the owner's manual.

 

[HuskyShepherd2016]

This is exactly right.
I still maintain the old stuff is junk and I have zero interest in it. Just like I have zero interest in square body GM trucks, which were likewise junk, yet still have old guys lusting for

This is exactly right.
I still maintain the old stuff is junk and I have zero interest in it. Just like I have zero interest in square body GM trucks, which were likewise junk, yet still have old guys lusting for them.

What part about what I’ve said was derogatory about new stuff other than I’ve had bad experiences with some newer Stihl’s and that I like both old as well as new stuff so long as it’s

You seem to ignore me saying that I like both old AND NEW saws so long as they are made well and serve their purpose well and that this isn’t the place for that kind of spat.

I’m actually not making snide comments at all about new saws. What part of it was snide besides me telling you that your attempts to turn this into a debate thread is not appreciated? I like both old as well as new saws. But you don’t seem to have enough comprehension skills to see that this is not an old vs new conversation and you keep on imposing that on the thread, which is disrespectful. Then you leave your obnoxious little laughing emoji all over the place like some self serving troll.

What part can’t you understand that this is not a debate thread? It’s not an old vs new spat? Things were fine until you came along and instigated. Like I older saws and there are plenty of newer ones that I like too.

A bunch of what we are talking about is subjective anyway.

You are the one that made it subjective and a debate. "New saws are made to be disposable." "Better weight, and av and speed, but not made to be reliable."
To which I say prove it, time and time again you sight well they are still around. Tell you what, let's regroup in about 40 years and see how the "vintage" saw landscape looks. It will looks much the same it does now, just with the saws you touted as junk and made to be thrown away. Well have issues getting parts for the saws from the 90's just like we have problems getting parts for saws from the 70's now. You really should go and reread what your saying, it's been nothing but derogatory to newer equipment and most of it has been false.

I just looked over everything I have said from the very first question I posted and the only newer saws that I have actually knocked or come even close to talking down down about was a couple of newer Stihl’s and some of the Suzy homemaker box store saws that have come out. For example, the newer poulans and pretty much all the existing companies that Husqvarna bought out. The rest of what you interpreted that I said about me not liking newer saws is for one, the fact that what I was originally asking pertained to old saws. And the other stuff is just me defending myself against how you have come at me. There’s a big difference between what I have said versus how you personally interpret what I say about older saws. But this was an older saw thread. I’ll gladly take part in a newer one too, I don’t have a problem with that. It’s really hard to keep up with conversations when they are all over the place though. I’m hope you can at least understand where I’m coming from with that.

Just because your opinion differs from mine and many of us throughout these pages, does not in any way make you the more righteous or superior. And I’ll say that about myself too. Neither one of us are right or wrong when it comes to the subjectiveness of what we prefer. Again, I re read this whole 15 page conversation and the only knock I made about newer chainsaws was the MS-290, and various box store saws that are being sold under the guise of “professional” saws.

And despite what you might interpret about what I’ve said, I do like a wide number of newer saws too, just like you do. As long as they are built durably and serve their purpose well.

If you keep this up, I don’t know what to tell you other than good day. I have tried to be more clear about my position but you won’t hear it. I really am trying to be as peaceable about this as I can. I even went back and re read everything that I posted from page 1. If there’s anything I skipped, I apologize.

 

[TBurt2168]

My go to for fire wood is usually whatever I’ve just been working on recently with my 044 as backup and a pioneer for fun . The 044 may be an older saw but it’s never let me down , old or new preventative maintenance will keep all well built saws running along time.

 

[HuskyShepherd2016]

This is exactly right.
I still maintain the old stuff is junk and I have zero interest in it. Just like I have zero interest in square body GM trucks, which were likewise junk, yet still have old guys lusting for them.

This is exactly right.
I still maintain the old stuff is junk and I have zero interest in it. Just like I have zero interest in square body GM trucks, which were likewise junk, yet still have old guys lusting for them.

If you have zero interest in any of it, then it does not make any sense that you insist on hanging around other than to knock anyone who might think a bit differently.

 

[pdqdl]

If I did, show me the post and I’ll take my medicine shot of embarrassment.

I did! Go back and follow the link I posted to your quoted request.

It's there. I promise.

 

[pdqdl]

GM trucks, which were likewise junk, yet still have old guys lusting for them.

Here now! I'm driving one right now as my every day driver. 1984 C-1500. It's been a pretty good truck for me. I've always bought Ford pickups, but I picked this one up for $450 with new tires and a bad transmission.

Fixed the tranny, and it's been pretty much problem free for about 2 years now. Doesn't use oil, and starts every time.