What older model chainsaw has the most durable engine?

[pdqdl]

My go to for fire wood is usually whatever I’ve just been working on recently with my 044 as backup and a pioneer for fun . The 044 may be an older saw but it’s never let me down , old or new preventative maintenance will keep all well built saws running along time.

I've always loved my 044. Kinda changed my attitude a bit when the 460 showed up. I like it much more than the 660's, and downright hated the 066's. Damn things burned up cylinders like they were made out of cardboard.

 

[HuskyShepherd2016]

I did! Go back and follow the link I posted to your quoted request.

It's there. I promise.

 

[MacAttack]

My first and most favorite saw was a 10-10s. While it was a very fine old saw, it was a boat anchor to use while climbing a tree, and it took all day to carve up a 4' diameter elm tree.

Differn't saws for differn't jobs.

Sounds like a good 35cc climbing saw and a 70cc bucking saw would have been nice to have!
I couldn't imagine lugging a 10-10 up into a tree, let alone starting it while up there.
I have a 10-10s and another 10-10 pro or whatever it's called, the both run great. My Homelite SXL is very comparable, but I don't think it can keep up the the 10-10s.

 

[HuskyShepherd2016]

That question was predominantly about what they are made out of like metals, alloys, polymers, and production processes then versus today and how they differ in the areas that they do. Not so much about preference. Could the question have been worded better yes.

 

[pdqdl]

Sounds like a good 35cc climbing saw and a 70cc bucking saw would have been nice to have!
I couldn't imagine lugging a 10-10 up into a tree, let alone starting it while up there.
I have a 10-10s and another 10-10 pro or whatever it's called, the both run great. My Homelite SXL is very comparable, but I don't think it can keep up the the 10-10s.

As I recall, mine was a Pro-Mac 10-10s. It was my only saw for at least three years. Thank god the Toro dealer sold me a good saw, because I was a real dummy when I started doing this stuff.

I didn't even know how to sharpen a chain, and I thought the bar nuts were somehow slipping loose, because I kept having to tighten the chain back up all the time. I learned to climb using that saw, and entirely without any tutor, too! I had never even seen anyone climbing a tree to do any trimming, much less having a good idea as to how it should be done.

It's truly amazing that I am still alive. Same story for my groundies. My first successful climb involved cutting off a fairly good sized branch off a walnut. It was over an AC unit, and everything had to be roped down. Naturally, I had 3-4 guys hanging on to the rope, right?

The guy in the back had tied himself into a loop at the end of the 3-twist rope. He got launched, but at least he came back down before he got clobbered. I've been learning more and more ever since.

 

[Bill G]

I have a best friend that when he was 16, our shop teacher said was a Brumhauer in his larval stage. Fast forward two and a half decades, he looks and talk’s exactly like him.

That is funny as I spent a career as a "shop teacher" and had many a student that may have been classified as such. The funny thing is they understood learning a skilled trade or an advanced degree was valuable and are very successful. I love seeing and talking with them.

 

[pdqdl]

I couldn't imagine lugging a 10-10 up into a tree, let alone starting it while up there.

I think I had quite a bit of that L'il Abner quality about me back then. Not so much, these days.

 

[Bill G]

This is exactly right.
I still maintain the old stuff is junk and I have zero interest in it. Just like I have zero interest in square body GM trucks, which were likewise junk, yet still have old guys lusting for them.

Ya wanna race?

 

[pdqdl]

What are we going to race around, and with?

If I get my choice, it's gonna be my 1987 Husqvarna 3120 with just a 24 inch bar. You can bring your favorite bow saw, and we'll see how it turns out.
Maybe bwalker will bring a Stihl 881 Magnum, polished, ported, and muffler tuned. That might be a challenge.

Or... You can bring almost anything you can find. Not many saws are going to beat that machine.




Hmmm... Is an '87 an old saw or a new one? They haven't changed much over the years.
Mine doesn't have any RPM limiter, though.

 

[Bill G]

If I get my choice, it's gonna be my 1987 Husqvarna 3120 with just a 24 inch bar. You can bring your favorite bow saw, and we'll see how it turns out.

I have never EVER said a bow is a race saw bar. Please go back and read what I said.

 

[Bill G]

I've always loved my 044. Kinda changed my attitude a bit when the 460 showed up. I like it much more than the 660's, and downright hated the 066's. Damn things burned up cylinders like they were made out of cardboard.

Is that 044 a 10mmn or 12mm?

 

[Bill G]

What are we going to race around, and with? ............................If I get my choice, it's gonna be my 1987 Husqvarna 3120 with just a 24 inch bar. You can bring your favorite bow saw, and we'll see how it turns out.......................Or... You can bring almost anything you can find. Not many saws are going to beat that machine.

I think my CR250 bike saw might give "ya" run for "da" money but heck you are "da" expert.

 

[HuskyShepherd2016]

Ya wanna race?

There are lots of square bodies: Chevy, Dodge and Fords around here that have been climbing the very same mountain terrain here in this mountain ranges and ranches since they were bought new, back in the 60’s, 70’s and 80’s whereas, countless newer Fords, Chevys and Dodge are breaking down and constantly in the shop or going back to the dealership a few hundred miles away. But I guess everything that is old is just junk, what do any of us know?

 

[HuskyShepherd2016]

Nah , Sean is just enlightening you brother . No harm no foul , actually he is quite correct imo within his annalogy of the MS 290 & MS 460 . Everyone has favorite form of saw , anyone for actually cutting for $$$ always favors a smooth & fast cutting saw , Mac & Pioneer or Homelite are not the go to options today for obvious reasons !

I thank you for your optimism, but I don’t see any attempts to enlighten. Has just been passive aggressive little snipes and constant misinterpretation since the very beginning. But I guess it’s ok in his mind to be down on the new guy.

 

[pdqdl]

I think my CR250 bike saw might give "ya" run for "da" money but heck you are "da" expert.

250cc's?

That would be a massively overpowered saw. Yeah, that could cut fast. I rather imagine it would be kind of heavy to tote around, and probably not practical to use. In a production "how much firewood can you make" race, I think a large modern saw would still come out ahead. Maybe not if you had the grip and shoulders of Paul Bunyan.

What kind of chain do you put on such a saw? .404 pitch, or do you find something bigger? My 3120 has been known to snap .375 chain occasionally.

 

[HuskyShepherd2016]

I think my CR250 bike saw might give "ya" run for "da" money but heck you are "da" expert.

Do you have a picture of that you could share?

 

[Bill G]

250cc's?

That would be a massively overpowered saw. Yeah, that could cut fast. I rather imagine it would be kind of heavy to tote around, and probably not practical to use. In a production "how much firewood can you make" race, I think a large modern saw would still come out ahead. Maybe not if you had the grip and shoulders of Paul Bunyan.

What kind of chain do you put on such a saw? .404 pitch, or do you find something bigger? My 3120 has been known to snap .375 chain occasionally.

Sir, if you are looking to argue saws with me well...........................you win you are an expert on EVERYTHING

I know this was before your time but please read and I hope you enjoy.

https://www.arboristsite.com/threads/building-a-500-hotsaw.28835/

 

[pdqdl]

I seem to recall that I posted questions, not arguments.

Can't read or see any pictures originating in that old link. Apparently the pictures are long gone. Every post from Dennis Cahoon is empty except for "500".

 

[bwalker]

There are lots of square bodies: Chevy, Dodge and Fords around here that have been climbing the very same mountain terrain here in this mountain ranges and ranches since they were bought new, back in the 60’s, 70’s and 80’s whereas, countless newer Fords, Chevys and Dodge are breaking down and constantly in the shop or going back to the dealership a few hundred miles away. But I guess everything that is old is just junk, what do any of us know?

Those old trucks eat parts left and right. Not to mention the fact they got terrible mileage, hsd no power, road like crap and just weren't reliable.

 

[bwalker]

Ya wanna race?

How about we go logging? You will want to ditch those old clunkers after the first day.