thanks for all the great info. i'm not looking to do another pulp plantation though. i'd like something more long term. as for the grapes, i live in wine country and grew up as a vineyard laborer. so other than having a cellar full of wine (not my drink of choice) i can't really go for grapes. besides the microclimate created by the fingerlakes is on the other side of the hill i face. so it's a bit chillier, prone to later and earlier frosts and just downright cold. the benefit of grapes would be a nusiance permit for deer though. although i could probably swing that with an apple orchard or blueberry farm too. not that realistic though. scrambling to stuff all of last years venison down the kids throats to make room in the freezer for this year. thanks again for the advice and if anyone has anything in mind not yet mentioned, let's hear it!
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