Greystoke
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I got what you need! Her name is Lady.
Jeff
Pit Bull? Might do the trick.
What's the dealio?
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Pit Bull? Might do the trick.
If you got a ball to throw, she is harmless!
Jeff
Jeff
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An upbeat thread....I'm in.
I spent three years on the ROW and managing side work. It somewhat prepared me for the rewarding challenge of going it on my own.
I do find that the behind the scenes work is quite the dealio though. It's a different ball game now, but I was ready for the change of pace and income and the timing couldn't have been better. I was in the middle of the transition, saw the open gap and turned it up field for some good yardage.
I'm getting all the classic phone calls now. lol. It's an entertaining distraction sometimes. I'm just trying to keep a good balance and not get overwhelmed by trying to do it all for everybody. Had enough of that while running a row crew.
Just take what I can handle, enjoy and do it safely and professionally, make money and let the established bottom feeders duke it out for no money. I'll work above that fray.
I love this industry and getting to chose who I work for. I've had a couple miserable HOs call me for an estimate and then get grumpy about the price and brag about how cheap they are getting it from so and so. I'm just as pleasant with my response, (and just as glad not to get it for several reasons) as when I showed up. Maybe a little suprised at how low some outfits will go to get work.
"Just verify their insurance and call me if you need anything." I get in my truck and leave.
This forum has definitely been a big plus and helps give me the inside track on the apex of the overall learning curve. Here's to good business.
I spent three years on the ROW and managing side work. It somewhat prepared me for the rewarding challenge of going it on my own.
I do find that the behind the scenes work is quite the dealio though. It's a different ball game now, but I was ready for the change of pace and income and the timing couldn't have been better. I was in the middle of the transition, saw the open gap and turned it up field for some good yardage.
I'm getting all the classic phone calls now. lol. It's an entertaining distraction sometimes. I'm just trying to keep a good balance and not get overwhelmed by trying to do it all for everybody. Had enough of that while running a row crew.
Just take what I can handle, enjoy and do it safely and professionally, make money and let the established bottom feeders duke it out for no money. I'll work above that fray.
I love this industry and getting to chose who I work for. I've had a couple miserable HOs call me for an estimate and then get grumpy about the price and brag about how cheap they are getting it from so and so. I'm just as pleasant with my response, (and just as glad not to get it for several reasons) as when I showed up. Maybe a little suprised at how low some outfits will go to get work.
"Just verify their insurance and call me if you need anything." I get in my truck and leave.
This forum has definitely been a big plus and helps give me the inside track on the apex of the overall learning curve. Here's to good business.
This could go on for ever. Just do what you agreed to and get paid to.
Jeff
The weather was very nice today!
Jeff
The weather was very nice today!
An upbeat thread....I'm in.
I spent three years on the ROW and managing side work. It somewhat prepared me for the rewarding challenge of going it on my own.
I do find that the behind the scenes work is quite the dealio though. It's a different ball game now, but I was ready for the change of pace and income and the timing couldn't have been better. I was in the middle of the transition, saw the open gap and turned it up field for some good yardage.
I'm getting all the classic phone calls now. lol. It's an entertaining distraction sometimes. I'm just trying to keep a good balance and not get overwhelmed by trying to do it all for everybody. Had enough of that while running a row crew.
Just take what I can handle, enjoy and do it safely and professionally, make money and let the established bottom feeders duke it out for no money. I'll work above that fray.
I love this industry and getting to chose who I work for. I've had a couple miserable HOs call me for an estimate and then get grumpy about the price and brag about how cheap they are getting it from so and so. I'm just as pleasant with my response, (and just as glad not to get it for several reasons) as when I showed up. Maybe a little suprised at how low some outfits will go to get work.
"Just verify their insurance and call me if you need anything." I get in my truck and leave.
This forum has definitely been a big plus and helps give me the inside track on the apex of the overall learning curve. Here's to good business.
I posted and then read this post.
Good post!!Jeff
treevet
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I posted and then read this post.
Jeff
I agree but might add it is difficult to stay completely outta the bottom feeders in the pond if all you do is take downs. (not referring to you just a general thought)
Continued good luck Biggie
That is true.
Jeff
Jeff
sgreanbeans
Treeaculterologist
I bid a struggling teacher 900 to prune her Pin Oak, I gave her a break as her friend is the father of a judo kid at our gym, he told me she had a bad run of luck with major expenses at her home(like everybody else) he tells me she is real nice and in need, so I give her a good price, she calls me back tells me not to bother with the other tree she was going to have me look at because I was "outrageous" with my price, her next highest bid was 275! WOW!!!! I did the same thing, "check their insurance and call the city to make sure they are licensed"
she said "OUTRAGEOUS"! :hmm3grin2orange:
she said "OUTRAGEOUS"! :hmm3grin2orange:
treevet
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I have climb pruned 3 big trees recently for $1500 ea. If I was in a lower income nborhood or less knowledgeable clients they would have laughed at me too. Don't let it bother you.
That is the problem with residential work. A prune for 800 bucks, that hits people in the purse hard. Now, If they live in an HOA, they pay dues. So now that oak prune is 300 bucks and you got 20 more. Works out. California is tough, but I don't think I could make it where (you know who you are ) are. In this economy, people are holding back. I would love to go to Texas, Florida, OK, etc., but my market target has got me.
Jeff
) are. In this economy, people are holding back. I would love to go to Texas, Florida, OK, etc., but my market target has got me.Jeff
treevet
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I don't know why but I am buried in work and everyone I talk to is saying yes to whatever I say. Today we did a $4k screen planting job on an estate we have worked on for 30 years and they liked it so much they told us to double the size of it. Digging the holes with the stump grinder.
Sold 4 other planting jobs in conjunction with tree work.
Screen planting is starting to become a specialty of ours. I designed a screen with Bracken Brown Beauty Mags in the back and the front row between them (staggered outwards) are Leyland Cypress. Nice combination of different textures and colors. This screen will end up being almost a hundred feet wide. Hides the neighbor's house after we removed some garbage Austrian pines a few months ago. Planting some other stuff as well.
Sold out of seasoned firewood already too.
Sold 4 other planting jobs in conjunction with tree work.
Screen planting is starting to become a specialty of ours. I designed a screen with Bracken Brown Beauty Mags in the back and the front row between them (staggered outwards) are Leyland Cypress. Nice combination of different textures and colors. This screen will end up being almost a hundred feet wide. Hides the neighbor's house after we removed some garbage Austrian pines a few months ago. Planting some other stuff as well.
Sold out of seasoned firewood already too.
treeclimber101
UNCLE BUCK
I agree that the screens are nice work , we are installing 40 leylands and 10 Autumn maples Friday along a wetlands border of garbage sumacs that cannot be removed , I push the leylands alot anymore , my brothers a grower and I get 5/6 fters for less than 50 bucks B and B .... I am glad too hear that your busy , we are steady but not setting any records , the importance of removals and replanting seems to be lacking with many companies around here , they cut and run , I like to maintain more ...
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treeclimber101
UNCLE BUCK
Can't you guys find anything better to plant Leyland cypress?
I was wondering who was planting all of those damn Leyland weeds. I'd prefer to see sumac especially with it's bright fall color. Plus it's a native.
Huh ? Other than ice and snow damage they are fine plants for a screen , cheap and expendable , they are fast growers @ a ft. average a yr. and need nothing other than some holly tone , I prefer poison ivy foliage in the fall to all else , its the prettiest color red around ...And sumac color change is over so fast , they are all empty already...
treevet
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:agree2: 101......... sumac won't screen all year and like you, I am paying less than $50 for 7 gal six footers. Nice lime green color, they don't die like crap arborvitae and get bushy and can grow to 60 or more feet. We gotta keep an eye on them for bag worms and I had a screen beat up bad by deer (long legged rats) 2 years ago but every one recovered and look great now.
The addition of Bracken Brown Beauty Mags (semi dwarfs) adds some elegance to the pedestrian Leylands and contrasts nicely. I thought of this and have never seen them together before. The BB mags are more expensive as they are very much in vogue now and worthy of it. I have planted maybe 200 or more over the recent years and not one (1) has died and needed to be replaced. They hardly shed any leaves and are very winter hardy.
This is an $8k screen we are putting in (half in already) and potential for tripling in size if they go with it.
The addition of Bracken Brown Beauty Mags (semi dwarfs) adds some elegance to the pedestrian Leylands and contrasts nicely. I thought of this and have never seen them together before. The BB mags are more expensive as they are very much in vogue now and worthy of it. I have planted maybe 200 or more over the recent years and not one (1) has died and needed to be replaced. They hardly shed any leaves and are very winter hardy.
This is an $8k screen we are putting in (half in already) and potential for tripling in size if they go with it.
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treevet
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what is your problem with them? I am listening. A weed is but an unloved plant.
They do not seem to do well here. Some do, alot do not. I don;t know, what were we talking about?
Jeff
Jeff
treevet
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I think ours may have morphed into the perfect climate for them and they do very well here and are very attractive. Seem pretty drought tolerant as we are in a Sahara Desert quality of drought here with no rain in it seems like 2 months maybe more.
treevet
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I see....maybe just because there are so many around there and not for a lack of capablity and resilience. There are NO Leylands around here except recently and to plant them SHOWS imagination and intellect as they are much better choice than the ubiquitous arborvitae or taxus (yeeaauuch) or Juniper, etc.
treevet
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I did not check the links prior to above post and now that I have, thanks for information I have been looking for. Seems they incur disease when hedged together and this cause deadwood naturally on the contiguous sections (giving a vector for insects and disease). I don't see any problem controlling bagworms as I expected this to be a problem and have a plan of action.
Wonder how they take to shearing and this would contain the growth, keep them seperate and suppress disease? Also there has been much inconsistency in opinions on the maturing heighth. I could easily maintain these with a bucket truck and in one case do not want them to swallow up the BB Magnolias I have planted in conjunction with them.
PS also have my ass covered as if the Leylands have issues by the time they get some size they can be removed at less than significant cost and the BB Mags will be capable of being the sole screen at that time.
Wonder how they take to shearing and this would contain the growth, keep them seperate and suppress disease? Also there has been much inconsistency in opinions on the maturing heighth. I could easily maintain these with a bucket truck and in one case do not want them to swallow up the BB Magnolias I have planted in conjunction with them.
PS also have my ass covered as if the Leylands have issues by the time they get some size they can be removed at less than significant cost and the BB Mags will be capable of being the sole screen at that time.
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sgreanbeans
Treeaculterologist
That is the problem with residential work. A prune for 800 bucks, that hits people in the purse hard. Now, If they live in an HOA, they pay dues. So now that oak prune is 300 bucks and you got 20 more. Works out. California is tough, but I don't think I could make it where (you know who you are
Jeff
Over winter I am going to pursue what HOA's we have here, not many. Thinking about mailing out some sort of info booklet to them. We have several condo outfits that a large amount of trees, they have landscape crews handle all their tree work, HORRIBLE job they do, but they dont know any better, young kids with mowers! Your right, often I bid jobs that are in the thousands when the HO is thinking hundreds
