My brother got a runner 08S Stihl, a minty Pioneer, and a bunch of Homelite parts (going up for sale soon) for $270 and I got another 361 from the same person as my other one for $25. I got all the missing parts with the other saw without the knowledge of their being another saw and re-assembled it after I got home from work. It's another X ------------ serial numbered saw as well. I don't think I can bring myself to part with either yet, though I don't really need 2. Both need a carb kit and the newbie needs a new fuel line and a couple bits of hardware before it'll be a runner.