Which klotz oil do you guys run? The stihl ultra is gone sky high at the local stihl dealer so I'm not going to run it any more. A 6 pack of ultra 1 gallon mix is a little over $10 now:msp_mad: I've ran the motul 2t 710 and it seemed fine also but a little high. The bike shop doesn't carry maxima K2.
Which Klotz?
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R50 doesn't burn that clean. That's why myself and Andre switched to K2.
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Anthony_Va.
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R50 is the only one I've tried. Been running it 45:1 now for awhile. I have noticed it to burn a little dirty though. Maybe I'll try that K2 next.
I would think BeNOL would leave a lot of deposits. Techniplate is the choice by those using alcohol, IIRC.
R50
My life isn't ruined if the piston top is black.
My life isn't ruined if the piston top is black.
I've been using original techniplate but i'm almost out. Just trying to decide what to get next or try something new. I usually mix 3 oz per gallon so i'm not running as much oil as a lot of you.
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Did you look into getting the ultra by the gallon? I buy it that way and it's a bit cheaper than klotz, at least where I shop. Just a thought.
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Super Techniplate @ 32:1
BTW, deposits are a non-issue.
Super Techniplate @ 32:1
BTW, deposits are a non-issue.
Sam I don't think they even get the 5 gallon mix bottles anywhere local. The ultra is not a big seller around here.
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Do you guys think the Maxima burns cleaner than HP Ultra? I've been pleased with ultra but I'm not opposed to switching.
I can't get maxima K2 local without ordering but the bike shop said it's no problem to add it to an order so it wouldn't be a special order. Will it burn clean at 45-50:1? I don't feel the need for more oil than that on a work saw. I did try some motul 2t 710 and it seemed like fine oil and was really leaving a good film on the inside of several saws. It was kinda pricey at $9 for a pint. They said they could order the 800 or whatever series I wanted also. I've used a quart of klotz and like the original but was wondering if one of the others is really better.
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one.man.band
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for those that have never ran motorcycle/racing oils in saws.
synthetic motorcycle/racing oils are different in a couple of ways than synthetic 'chainsaw' oils.
1. viscosity - thicker, make that way thicker.
2. flashpoint - way higher (chainsaw type: 250 to 425F) vs. (moto/race oil 450 to 550F)
retuning will be necessary. because of 1. and 2. what that translates into when using them in a saw is lots of counterclockwise richening of the high speed jet. about 15% richer. (because they don't add to the combustion process as much as 'chainsaw' oils, and more gas from carb is needed).
these moto/race oils don't burn off like lower (read :cheaper) flashpoint oils. the motor will usually be way cleaner because they don't carbon as much. 550F is up there. probably some drool out the pipe.
some of these race oils are not meant to be run at 50:1. usually 32:1 average what most folks run on these.
castor oils are great stuff. buildup of goopiness will most likely occur though. not much way around that. castor oil not only lubricates your intestines better, it is better than synth as far as heat protecting your motor.
once you retune and get over the $10 to $15 a quart wallet lightening all is fine.
+1 for the 80% synth, 20% castor blend
synthetic motorcycle/racing oils are different in a couple of ways than synthetic 'chainsaw' oils.
1. viscosity - thicker, make that way thicker.
2. flashpoint - way higher (chainsaw type: 250 to 425F) vs. (moto/race oil 450 to 550F)
retuning will be necessary. because of 1. and 2. what that translates into when using them in a saw is lots of counterclockwise richening of the high speed jet. about 15% richer. (because they don't add to the combustion process as much as 'chainsaw' oils, and more gas from carb is needed).
these moto/race oils don't burn off like lower (read :cheaper) flashpoint oils. the motor will usually be way cleaner because they don't carbon as much. 550F is up there. probably some drool out the pipe.
some of these race oils are not meant to be run at 50:1. usually 32:1 average what most folks run on these.
castor oils are great stuff. buildup of goopiness will most likely occur though. not much way around that. castor oil not only lubricates your intestines better, it is better than synth as far as heat protecting your motor.
once you retune and get over the $10 to $15 a quart wallet lightening all is fine.
+1 for the 80% synth, 20% castor blend
A couple of the saws it will be ran in are autotune and the do all the tuning for me so that part doesn't matter. If the stihl dealer wasn't so high I would keep running that stuff. I just like the smell of klotz and it does provide some extra protection. The $12 a quart works out cheaper than the stihl ultra from the co-op.
Ive ran Klotz original techniplate for years in both gas & alky saws I have neaver had a issue oil related of any kind.
A Buddie of mine picked up a quart of the lite techniplate (KL 198) Ive ran 5 gals of fuel mixed with this stuff and I really like it, nice clean burn and everything has a nice film on it... kinda smells like soap when it burning.
A Buddie of mine picked up a quart of the lite techniplate (KL 198) Ive ran 5 gals of fuel mixed with this stuff and I really like it, nice clean burn and everything has a nice film on it... kinda smells like soap when it burning.
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I might try the lite techniplate. It sounds like it might be a good choice for a saw. They don't have the tech sheet for it on their website. I was just going to pick up some more original but I'm stuck in a motel today so I have nothing better to do then start an oil thread.
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I might try the lite techniplate. It sounds like it might be a good choice for a saw. They don't have the tech sheet for it on their website. I was just going to pick up some more original but I'm stuck in a motel today so I have nothing better to do then start an oil thread.
Sounds good Mike,
Let us know what younthink about it...
I've run the techniplate .80/20 for a long time in fflushcutting for sstumpgrinding. Never had an idssue,,,
I bought a gal on of Ultra a year ago and it's almost gone,,
Parrisw is sold on theAmsoil saber
Keep us posted
