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I refuse to start a new oil thread and I believe this is an appropriate thread to ask this:

What is the proper ratio for R50 or K2? Recommended ratios on their products website are 25:1 (but that's referencing snowmobiles and bikes) and on AS it seems that everyone just mixes it somewhere between 25:1 and 50:1. I'm used to getting Ultra HP which is 50:1 clear and simple. This racing oil stuff seems to be more open to interpretation. I just want the right mix for a chainsaw (muff modded is all I've done, yet).

I'm using R50 right now but I've got a quart of K2 to use too.
 
I refuse to start a new oil thread and I believe this is an appropriate thread to ask this:

What is the proper ratio for R50 or K2? Recommended ratios on their products website are 25:1 (but that's referencing snowmobiles and bikes) and on AS it seems that everyone just mixes it somewhere between 25:1 and 50:1. I'm used to getting Ultra HP which is 50:1 clear and simple. This racing oil stuff seems to be more open to interpretation. I just want the right mix for a chainsaw (muff modded is all I've done, yet).

I'm using R50 right now but I've got a quart of K2 to use too.

I mix 32:1 no matter what oil I use. Even Stihl ultra.
 
I refuse to start a new oil thread and I believe this is an appropriate thread to ask this:

What is the proper ratio for R50 or K2? Recommended ratios on their products website are 25:1 (but that's referencing snowmobiles and bikes) and on AS it seems that everyone just mixes it somewhere between 25:1 and 50:1. I'm used to getting Ultra HP which is 50:1 clear and simple. This racing oil stuff seems to be more open to interpretation. I just want the right mix for a chainsaw (muff modded is all I've done, yet).

I'm using R50 right now but I've got a quart of K2 to use too.

R50 is very concentrated so you can run it a 40:1 or 50:1 if you like. K2 is a different breed of oil and will burn cleaner with richer ratios like 32:1. I personally run all my saws on 32:1 mix, and the only thing it does is coat all the right places with plenty of oil. For normal use and in a woods ported saws either oil will do it's job fine, with R50 having better shear strength IMHO. K2 will burn cleaner, with less smoke and less smell. For normal use you will likely be happier with K2, for racing R50 would be the better choice IMHO.
 
Super Tecniplate,

It's got some bean oil in it, and just smells like a 2 stroke should.


(It also mixes with ethanol)
 
This is the Klotz I use:
Mainly for the rust protection and meets JASO FD---
I mix 20:1 and no carbon fouling at all.
Benol is nice but too much plug fouling and not happy with off season storage protection.
This is similar oil to Belray JS2 watercraft(Marine Racing new name) and Mystik HP Ultimate 2 stroke and Shindaiwa Red Armor.

quote from Klotz website:

Snowmobile TechniPlate®
TC-W3

This premium, power valve friendly, synthetic lubricant has been providing racers and enthusiasts with the best protection available for over three decades. The smoke-free formula and great smell will ensure that the riders behind you will enjoy the quality of Klotz® as much as you're enjoying the performance benefits. Exceeds NMMA TC-W3®, JASO FD(#236), ISO-EGD and API TC low ash specifications for certified warranty compliance in Ski Doo®, Polaris®, Yamaha®, and Arctic Cat® Snowmobiles. Not alcohol compatible.

Description:
Snowmobile TechniPlate® TC-W3 is a pure synthetic lubricant. Extremely high load carrying capacity for reduced engine wear and low maintenance. Clean Burn™ No-Smoke Technology eliminates carbon and residue build-up. Meets and exceeds API TC, TC-W, NMMA TC-W3, JASO FD and ISO-EGD specifications for certified warranty compliance in Ski-Doo®, Polaris®, Yamaha® and Arctic Cat® snowmobiles. Klotz Snowmobile TechniPlate® TC-W3 will challenge and outrun the competition in the following ways:

•Improves throttle response
•TechniPlate® lubricity system for superior film strength and anti-scuff protection
•Clean Burn™ for low smoke and prevents plug fouling
•Anti-Oxidation protection against rust and corrosion•Contains familiar Klotz Red for easy mixing and racy scent
•Power Valve formula for R.A.V.E.™, V.E.S.™, A.P.V.™ and Y.P.V.S.™ Valve engines.
•Super cold Pour Point of -40°F provides fast, easy starting


Application:
Snowmobile: 2-Stroke/gas; Stock, Trail, Hi-performance, Drag Racing, Snow Cross, Water Cross
Characteristics:
Smoke Rating: 10 1 = fog - 10 = no smoke
Clean Burn™: 10 1 = heavy deposits - 10 = no carbon
Film Strength: 8 1 = failure - 10 = no wear
Pour Point: -40°F
Flash Point: 275°F
Maximum RPM: 10,000
Viscosity @ 100°c: 7.10 cSt Typical
Product Color: Red

Instructions:
2-Stroke pre-mix or oil injection: Mix at 40:1 to 50:1
Compatibility: Blends with gasoline and stays in suspension. Will blend with petroleum oils and synthetic lubricants. 48% Biodegradable formula.

Available part numbers: KL-215 quart; KL-216 gallon; KL-215-05 (5 Gallon); 30 & 55 gallon drum



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