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.....................at WOT the chain is not moving fast enough to be slung into anybody. When mine broke, it stopped in a flash and never jumped from the sprocket.............. Igpoe:cheers:

Well I am not one to ever split hairs and this is no place to start. I have a bit of experience with the 2 mans but obviously not as much as you.:D


In my limited experience I will tell you that a good sharp 3/4 Chisel Disston chain will hurt at any speed.
 
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I agree with all of this as it makes good sense. But I may be one of very few who has actually had a chain break on a Mall 2-man and y'all need to trust me.....................at WOT the chain is not moving fast enough to be slung into anybody. When mine broke, it stopped in a flash and never jumped from the sprocket more than a couple inches. Maybe someone else has had a different experience.
Igpoe:cheers:


As Cliff posted it is referred to as a guard there. It is referred to as a kerf bar elsewhere. To be honest the difference is like splitting hairs. The piece serves both purposes. If the chain would throw it will slow or stop it before it hits the guy/gal on the helper handle end. It also serves to prevent some pinching that would be very harmful to both guys/gals.

Billl
I don't think splitting hairs has anything to do with it, but it's quite interesting to analyse what the real purpose of that guard was.

The french did call it the "protège chaîne" and the germans call it "Kettenschutz", which literally means 'chain protection', and imo it really was meant to protect the chain from foreign objects, whatever they may be.

The manuals clearly state that wedges should be used once the bar was buried in the kerf, so I doubt the guard was meant to protect the saw from being pinched. The guard is also designed on most saws for quick removal, which leads me to believe that this was somewhat necessary during logging operations. If you have cut cookies with a 2 man saw, you'll notice that even a slightly misaligned guard will cause more trouble than anything else to bury the bar. I also can imagine that loggers got rid pretty quickly of that guard for that particular reason, and it may explain why many saws are found today without the guard.

Since operator safety was really insignificant back then, I think it really was meant to protect the chain, not the operator. But truth to be told, a running chain without guard on a two man saw is a bit scary, as it can grab clothes or anything else pretty quickly at the top side. I always tell bystanders to stay clear from the bar when I am testing a saw for that reason.

Like Igpoe, my limited experience learned me also that the chain speed is probably too slow to really sling the chain end far away to cause damage (without guarantee ;) ) I had a scratcher chain break twice on a Stihl BLK and was surprised that the chain just rolled off underneath the saw.

I have my flame suite ready for use..., so don't be afraid to comment.
 
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I have broken a few chains on modern saws and they did not all act the same. Twice I have had .325 chains break on a Stihl MS260 Pro, once the chain just sat there and I did not even know it broke. The other time the chain shot off the end of the bar into the river never to be seen again. I imagine the same would hold true for your old two man saws.

Re the guard, it looks to be something that would get chucked pretty quickly. Just a guess.
 
I hadn't scored a new saw for several months now, but last week I got a lucky hand on a pretty rare french 2-man saw, A Vamo 2H.
I am very glad with this one.

She has a peculiar kick starter (which works very well btw) and a spring loaded decomp.

she looks a bit rough but she's in very good shape.

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Very nice find Roland. You seem to find all the neat ones :bowdown:
:)

You can start my Mall 7 with your foot, but only when its warm, it is still a little finicky sometimes.
 
Mall Model 11

Here is the Mall Model 11 that I am working on. I am still looking for a new handle as you can see the throttle side one is broken.

Does anyone know where I can get some Mall decals for the bar or a whole kit for the saw?

Thanks.

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Mall 11

I need a cylinder for the above saw. The chrome is peeling on the one I have. If you can help P M me. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Tom
 
I hadn't scored a new saw for several months now, but last week I got a lucky hand on a pretty rare french 2-man saw, A Vamo 2H.
I am very glad with this one.

You scored with a French Vamp? Does your wife have any idea?

She has a peculiar kick starter (which works very well btw) and a spring loaded decomp.

Better be nice to her, or she might kick back!

she looks a bit rough but she's in very good shape.

Some women just age better than others. Keeping in shape helps fight off the effects of gravity.

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This view of her reminds me of a major kitchen appliance. With her nose down in the dirt, her rear end straight up in the air, you just might be able to prepare some of that fine French cuisine on her 2 burner kitchen range top.

Bon Appétit!
 

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