661 Oil Test 32:1 vs 40:1 vs 50:1 ?

[KG441c]

No Maxima oil on the list

It cost the manufacturer 40000 to have their oil tested and certified on the list. From my understanding that list is current as apr.1st 2015. Oil manufacturers are not required to participate

 

[KenJax Tree]

Super M is rated FD it says on the bottle but K2 doesn't have a rating

 

[Marshy]

JASO Engine Oil Standards Implementation Panel. Feel free to look up you oil, it has 18 pages of oils and their ratings.
http://www.jalos.or.jp/onfile/

 

[KG441c]

JASO Engine Oil Standards Implementation Panel
http://www.jalos.or.jp/onfile/

Thats the same place Ron660 and myself downloaded the jaso testing procedure and list from

 

[KG441c]

If it doesnt have a square box with 9 numbers and letters with a large fb,fc,or fd in the box it hasnt actually participated and been certified by JASO. Manufacturers can print meets or exceeds on the back all they want but if they arent on the confirmed Jaso list its not certified

 

[Marshy]

Husqvarna Low Smoke is FD rated and that's what I use and like. Synthetic blend and a littler cheaper than the liquid gold you guys use. Gallon cost a little north of $30. Im going to order a gallon this summer.

 

[KenJax Tree]

Lucas is less than $30

 

[bwalker]

Bwalker how do u like the citgo supergard air cooled? I see they have one thats fc rated and one thats registered citgo supergard air cooled thats fd rated

It seems decent, certainly no less quality than Husky silver bottle.

 

[Marshy]

Lucas is less than $30

FD rated? They are not on JASO list of certified oils...

 

[KG441c]

FD rated? They are not on JASO list of certified oils...

Its not rated or certified but only claims to meet or exceed jaso ratings

 

[bwalker]

Lucas is less than $30

I have seen it locally at O'Reilly , bug I'm not keen on using an injector oil.

 

[bwalker]

FD rated? They are not on JASO list of certified oils...

I believe they claim "meets jaso" or some such verbage. Means it hasn't been tested and actually certified, which doesn't mean it's junk in and of itself.

 

[KenJax Tree]

Meets ISO GD and JASO FD
Exceeds API TC

 

[KenJax Tree]

There is a LOT of good oils not and that list and most of those nobody has ever heard of.

 

[bwalker]

It cost the manufacturer 40000 to have their oil tested and certified on the list. From my understanding that list is current as apr.1st 2015. Oil manufacturers are not required to participate

I was supprised to see Klotz had an oil on the list.

 

[KG441c]

Meets ISO GD and JASO FD
Exceeds API TC

Yep. Marketing stradegy but not on the list. It is not certified. Im like bwalker still doesnt mean its not top notch. Just means lucas didnt pay the 40000 Yen to certify it

 

[bwalker]

There is a LOT of good oils not and that list and most of those nobody has ever heard of.

Keep in mind alot of the oils you refer to as good would not pass those tests. Some would if course, but oils like 800t, r50, H1r etc would not.

 

[bwalker]

Yep. Marketing stradegy but not on the list. It is not certified. Im like bwalker still doesnt mean its not top notch. Just means lucas didnt pay the 40000 Yen to certify it

With how small the two cycle market has become it makes little sense to certify for most companies. Only one of the Japanese manufactures still makes two cycle motor cycles for first world markets.

 

[KG441c]

With how small the two cycle market has become it makes little sense to certify for most companies. Only one of the Japanese manufactures still makes two cycle motor cycles for first world markets.

I agree and doesnt look like we have a surefire way to determine oil quality the way companies can claim anything on the bottle for marketing

 

[KG441c]

With how small the two cycle market has become it makes little sense to certify for most companies. Only one of the Japanese manufactures still makes two cycle motor cycles for first world markets.

Ktm still produces them I think