661 Oil Test 32:1 vs 40:1 vs 50:1 ?

[bwalker]

I have never been a fan of Husky oil. This pic reinforces that opinion.

Looks like that piston had a lot of blowby. Blowby will make any oil look bad.

 

[blsnelling]

Why do the semi synthetics have such a higher solvent content?

 

[Deleted member 83629]

I think its all supertech from walmart and relabeled!!! Lol!!!

supertech 2 cycle oil is blended by warren oil company they carry the brands such as coastal,itasca,mag1

look at this for poulan synthetic 2 cycle oil with fuel stabilizer
http://msds.walmartstores.com/clien...2-8f59-db11504b3e8c&action=MSDS&subformat=NAM

 

[bwalker]

Why do the semi synthetics have such a higher solvent content?

Semi synthetics and oils like K2 and 710 have higher solvent contents because a little solvent is needed to keep the multiple components of their blends in suspension.
I would much rather see a little solvent and an oil with a blend of components than a straight synthetic base stock and additive blend like H1R.

 

[bwalker]

supertech 2 cycle oil is blended by warren oil company they carry the brands such as coastal,itasca,mag1

look at this for poulan synthetic 2 cycle oil with fuel stabilizer
http://msds.walmartstores.com/clien...2-8f59-db11504b3e8c&action=MSDS&subformat=NAM

SuperTech is marine oil.. not a good idea in a saw, although plenty of loggers use it.

 

[bwalker]

What do you guys see weird here???



Maxima Super M Injector, exceed BIA/TCW, JASO-FC, ISO-E-GD and API TC.

Mobil1 MX2T, exceed JASO-FC, Proposed ISO-L-EGD, API TC.

Motorex CrossPower 2T, JASO FC, ISO-L-EGD, ISO-Global GC, API TC, Low Smoke.

Motul 800 Factory Line Road Racing 2T double ester, API TC.

http://images28.fotki.com/v986/photos/7/39087/7893182/IMAG0003-vi.jpg

...............Maxima........Mobil1.......Motorex........Motul

Iron...............0...............1...............0............0
Tin................0...............0...............0............57
Silicon............0...............0...............0............2
Sodium...........0...............1...............1............3
Titanium.........1...............6...............6............0
Potassium........0...............0...............0............1
Boron.............1...............3...............0............2
Magnesium.......1..............1...............2............2
Calcium.........462.............481............486.........651
Barium............2...............2..............2............1
Phosphorus.......3..............19..............6............62
Zinc...............2..............24..............5............65

Water (IR)...... < 0.1.........< 0.1%.........0.1..........0.1
VIS @ 100C ..... 9.6 cSt......14.3...........12.6.........18.0
TAN..............0.15..........0.49...........0.60.........0.53

 

[blsnelling]

Looks like that piston had a lot of blowby. Blowby will make any oil look bad.

Semi synthetics and oils like K2 and 710 have higher solvent contents because a little solvent is needed to keep the multiple components of their blends in suspension.
I would much rather see a little solvent and an oil with a blend of components than a straight synthetic base stock and additive blend like H1R.

Reply to this statement. This is not a statement of fact or opinion. Just looking for thoughts on it.

"Semi synthetics only need all those extra detergents and additives because they use petroleum oil and burn dirty."

 

[bwalker]

Reply to this statement. This is not a statement of fact or opinion. Just looking for thoughts on it.

"Semi synthetics only need all those extra detergents and additives because they use petroleum oil and burn dirty."

That's a completely blanket statement. Many semis burn cleaner than full synthetics.
What made the oil older mineral oils burn dirty was the heavy weight bright stock added as a antiscuff. When you replace bright stock with an ester or better yet a PIB the dirty burning and smoke are no longer a factor.

 

[blsnelling]

That's a completely blanket statement. Many semis burn cleaner than full synthetics.

And, could that simply be due to all the extra additives?

 

[Deleted member 83629]

i got some lawnboy ashless oil i might use since i got 12 cases of it it really doesn't has much for solvents its just ashless oil.

 

[KG441c]

What do you guys see weird here???



Maxima Super M Injector, exceed BIA/TCW, JASO-FC, ISO-E-GD and API TC.

Mobil1 MX2T, exceed JASO-FC, Proposed ISO-L-EGD, API TC.

Motorex CrossPower 2T, JASO FC, ISO-L-EGD, ISO-Global GC, API TC, Low Smoke.

Motul 800 Factory Line Road Racing 2T double ester, API TC.

http://images28.fotki.com/v986/photos/7/39087/7893182/IMAG0003-vi.jpg

...............Maxima........Mobil1.......Motorex........Motul

Iron...............0...............1...............0............0
Tin................0...............0...............0............57
Silicon............0...............0...............0............2
Sodium...........0...............1...............1............3
Titanium.........1...............6...............6............0
Potassium........0...............0...............0............1
Boron.............1...............3...............0............2
Magnesium.......1..............1...............2............2
Calcium.........462.............481............486.........651
Barium............2...............2..............2............1
Phosphorus.......3..............19..............6............62
Zinc...............2..............24..............5............65

Water (IR)...... < 0.1.........< 0.1%.........0.1..........0.1
VIS @ 100C ..... 9.6 cSt......14.3...........12.6.........18.0
TAN..............0.15..........0.49...........0.60.........0.53

Bwalker r u really bobistheoilguy???!! Lol!!

 

[Deleted member 83629]

And, could that simply be due to all the extra additives?

might be extra additives to combat the ethanol laced fuel these days.

 

[KG441c]

What do you guys see weird here???



Maxima Super M Injector, exceed BIA/TCW, JASO-FC, ISO-E-GD and API TC.

Mobil1 MX2T, exceed JASO-FC, Proposed ISO-L-EGD, API TC.

Motorex CrossPower 2T, JASO FC, ISO-L-EGD, ISO-Global GC, API TC, Low Smoke.

Motul 800 Factory Line Road Racing 2T double ester, API TC.

http://images28.fotki.com/v986/photos/7/39087/7893182/IMAG0003-vi.jpg

...............Maxima........Mobil1.......Motorex........Motul

Iron...............0...............1...............0............0
Tin................0...............0...............0............57
Silicon............0...............0...............0............2
Sodium...........0...............1...............1............3
Titanium.........1...............6...............6............0
Potassium........0...............0...............0............1
Boron.............1...............3...............0............2
Magnesium.......1..............1...............2............2
Calcium.........462.............481............486.........651
Barium............2...............2..............2............1
Phosphorus.......3..............19..............6............62
Zinc...............2..............24..............5............65

Water (IR)...... < 0.1.........< 0.1%.........0.1..........0.1
VIS @ 100C ..... 9.6 cSt......14.3...........12.6.........18.0
TAN..............0.15..........0.49...........0.60.........0.53

Motul 800 has the highest additives which will contribute to the leftovers after combustion that would exceed the ash threshold of .018 for Jaso FD certification?

 

[blsnelling]

Keep in mind, that's the Road Racing version, and the K2 is the injector version.

 

[KenJax Tree]

Keep in mind, that's the Road Racing version, and the K2 is the injector version.

He posted the Super M injector there isn't a K2 for injectors

 

[KenJax Tree]

Anyways i don't know what all the numbers and % mean, the more i try to understand the less i understand[emoji10]

 

[bwalker]

Keep in mind, that's the Road Racing version, and the K2 is the injector version.

The road racing version is nearly identical to the Off Road version.

 

[bwalker]

Bwalker r u really bobistheoilguy???!! Lol!!

No, the original bob was a complete hack...

 

[bwalker]

Motul 800 has the highest additives which will contribute to the leftovers after combustion that would exceed the ash threshold of .018 for Jaso FD certification?

Bingo..

 

[KG441c]

Bingo..

Do u have the #s for my beloved r50??? Lol!!!