Dude that iPhone samurai oil has the coolest name. I am using that.
661 Oil Test 32:1 vs 40:1 vs 50:1 ?
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http://www.pennzoil.com/other-car-p...utboard-and-multi-purpose-2-cycle-engine-oil/
"PENNZOIL® PREMIUM OUTBOARD AND MULTI-PURPOSE 2-CYCLE ENGINE OIL
Pennzoil® Premium Outboard and Multi-Purpose 2-Cycle Engine Oil is a high-performance 2-cycle engine oil meeting or exceeding the warranty requirements of all leading manufacturers of 2-cycle products including chain saws, lawn mowers, motorcycles and string trimmers, as well as outboard engines made by: Johnson/Evinrude, Mercury Marine, Yamaha, Suzuki, Nissan, Force/US Marine, Mariner, Sears and all other manufacturers requiring NMMA TC-W3® oil.
Recommended for pre-mix, injector systems and direct injection systems. Good for water-cooled and air-cooled 2-cycle engines recommending NMMA TC-W3® products. Always follow the dilution ratio and oil performance level recommended in the owner’s manual. For any use where NMMA TC-W3® , TC-W II® or TC-W® oil is recommended."
Lol, owners manuals also tell you to run a 50:1 fuel to oil ratio. Seems legit.
Well that product (to your wonderment) must have been changed in some way! Obviously the oil companies haven't been stuck in the same time warp as you, nor have sent their chemical engineers on extended holidays where they don't have to do anymore R & D to make a better product to suit a wider range of applications, then have its new wider characteristics discussed on a website that has global participants & advertised for free because it's now the right oil for a new application.
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Its not a double ester, it's di-ester.
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I guess you missed the point of my post. With the 800 being double ester and the R50 being di ester i asked if that could be why they are 1 and 2 on the list here as far as flashpoint because of the esters. They're higher by a good margin. Thats all i asked
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There is no such thing as a double ester.. They are higher because the lowest component in their blend ignites at higher temps. Flash point doesn't measure what you think it does and is mostly given for purposes of shipping and storage.
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Probably because it's referee to as a diester..not double.
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There probably is no better example of a serial arguers theme, that combined with a hide like an elephant will provide hours of entertainment for them.
Now I'm not even a chemist, but common sense would tell anybody that a diester is a linked compound, & a double ester is two different esters which are not linked chemically.
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Its not a double ester, it's di-ester.
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I guess you missed the point of my post. With the 800 being double ester and the R50 being di ester i asked if that could be why they are 1 and 2 on the list here as far as flashpoint because of the esters. They're higher by a good margin. Thats all i asked
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There is no such thing as a double ester.. They are higher because the lowest component in their blend ignites at higher temps. Flash point doesn't measure what you think it does and is mostly given for purposes of shipping and storage.
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Probably because it's referee to as a diester..not double.
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There probably is no better example of a serial arguers theme, that combined with a hide like an elephant will provide hours of entertainment for them.
Now I'm not even a chemist, but common sense would tell anybody that a diester is a linked compound, & a double ester is two different esters which are not linked chemically.
Most of the terms like Double Ester are simply for marketing, they mean little to nothing. Viscosity at 100°C (212°F) is one thing I like to look for in the top end race oils, but it's not the end all be all. 
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Same here. A 15cst looks better than an 8cst to me. That's one reason I went from stihl ultra to 800 off-road. Plus the feedback I was getting from AS members revealing lower end lubrication and cleanliness. I'm sure I already stated this a few hundred pages back.Most of the terms like Double Ester are simply for marketing, they mean little to nothing. Viscosity at 100°C (212°F) is one thing I like to look for in the top end race oils, but it's not the end all be all.
Boat oil... And just because an oil company says you can use it for everything under the sun doesn't mean you should. Especially when the OEM says you shouldn't use boat oil..
Yes.Most of the terms like Double Ester are simply for marketing, they mean little to nothing. Viscosity at 100°C (212°F) is one thing I like to look for in the top end race oils, but it's not the end all be all.
Making assumptions again? False ones at that. Have an Ensure and sink back into your senile fog.
Except it wasnt..it's still an ashless marine oil.
Not at all, I'd be a wacker like you if if I did that. You make claims but never back ANYTHING up to support your claims
Here's some quotes backing up that you know jack about the subject
"The double ester trade name meant Motul contains both di-esters and polyol-ester base oils."
"Improved and reinforced formula based on 2 different Esters in order to provide outstanding lubrication under highly stringent......"
I state facts... you idiots make claims. There is a differance.
Your the only one saying that & there are federal laws in every nation globally that prohibit false advertising, it's advertised as a multi purpose oil & if it's unable to do what it claims the penalties are massive, would they take the risk relabelling the old product without changing the formula, I doubt it! Would some goose make a pea brained claim saying otherwise, you bet!
Serious? Remember Slick 50?
It's boat oil, do the leg work...
Your running off at the mouth again & haven't backed up your facts with any evidence.
Now I would be a complete idiot to believe the rubbish you come out with sometimes.
It looks like you may have absorbed to much slick 50 through the palms of your hands & it has affected your reading skills like the rest of the product information which you seem to not be able to absorb. LOL
I've never heard of slick 50 but from what it seems to have done for you, I'll stay well away from it!
I'm in wonderment that one of these companies hasn't chased you down & nailed you for libel against their products yet.
http://www.pennzoil.com/other-car-p...utboard-and-multi-purpose-2-cycle-engine-oil/
"PENNZOIL® PREMIUM OUTBOARD AND MULTI-PURPOSE 2-CYCLE ENGINE OIL
Pennzoil® Premium Outboard and Multi-Purpose 2-Cycle Engine Oil is a high-performance 2-cycle engine oil meeting or exceeding the warranty requirements of all leading manufacturers of 2-cycle products including chain saws, lawn mowers, motorcycles and string trimmers, as well as outboard engines made by: Johnson/Evinrude, Mercury Marine, Yamaha, Suzuki, Nissan, Force/US Marine, Mariner, Sears and all other manufacturers requiring NMMA TC-W3® oil.
Recommended for pre-mix, injector systems and direct injection systems. Good for water-cooled and air-cooled 2-cycle engines recommending NMMA TC-W3® products. Always follow the dilution ratio and oil performance level recommended in the owner’s manual. For any use where NMMA TC-W3® , TC-W II® or TC-W® oil is recommended."
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Like the article I posted said air cooled premix and injection oils are 2 different things. I wouldnt use the Penzoil in my saws but thats me. Guess any of these companies will claim anything but for sure is they arent gonna cover your equipment if you burn it up!Funny coming from you...
Just because they say you can, doesn't mean you can and not by a long shot. HUSKY specifically says not to use boat oils...
A fact lost on these numb skulls...
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