661 Oil Test 32:1 vs 40:1 vs 50:1 ?

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The last time I brought a new gun home my wife said, "Well does this complete your collection"? I said did your last purse you bought complete your collection?
I have had the talk where by I point out that I can resell a gun for nearly what I bought it for, but her stuff has very little worth as soon as it's in her hands.
 
The parts alone for one of my main rifles cost over $4k I bet. Then there is gunsmithing, load development, etc know a guy that has several Echol's Legends at 14k per.
Similar rifles I've seen like my 264 are 4K+ without a scope. I'm sure my ported saws will last longer than my magnum barrels.
 
I've been wanting to build a straight 284 on a savage long action so I can seat further out with the 175-190 grain bullets. I'm over the big magnums sinceover 1k yards is hard to come by in my part of the country. If I could shoot 2k then a 300 Norma or a 375CT would be my pick.
 
With the advent of rangefinders, high BC bullets and BDC reticles/turret scopes a magnum is no longer needed or even desirable for long range shooting.
I shoot a 300 ultra as my main gun to put elk down with authority. This is important in the area of MT I hunt as there is private ground with public around it. As such a long death run isn't desirable.
Anything with high velocity kills deer and the like handily.
 
I've been doing some bar comparison, chain comparison, and sprocket comparison testing lately. Here is a test I did yesterday...

time - faster or slower then another combo, really doesn't matter to me. I am looking for consistency.

I was applying regular or just natural feel as far as pressure applied to saw/handle goes. I am not exactly sure what happened on the 3rd cuts. Maybe you guys can tell... But I do remember starting to think about the pressure I was applying on the saw/handle. Usually I don't think about it. I just go and do the test and my times are/have been consistent in the past.

Point - it taught me I just need to do it and not evaluate what im doing while in the cut. I seem to be just fine as long as I don't think about it.

Next consideration - which chain is most likely to help show it, if the saw has a gain in power or a loss in power.

7pin 3/8 RS - almost like the saw is too strong for this combo. Call me crazy but, to me it seems that the cutters get dull faster on the 661 then when I was testing 3/8RS on the 660 (which has a lot less torque). Anyway, due to the torque of the 661 I think this combo would look good almost no matter. In other words, the torque of the saw is so strong that even losing some power, the 3/8ths chain wouldn't really reflect it. Although, h1r did lose 7 seconds on avg in about a 30sec cut from 50:1 down to 32:1.

8pin 3/8 RS - Not sure I like this combo as you have to be more careful on the pressure. Seems easier to bog it down etc.

7pin 404 RS - Don't care for the wider kerf. But this stuff ...applying natural pressure is easy. Pretty much just self feeds. I think this combo would show a gain or loss in power pretty easily. The chain holds up amazingly well.

7pin 404 RSLF - seems like the times were the most consistent with this setup. Again self feed with natural pressure. But it doesn't really feel like your biting into the wood like with the RS. So part of me thinks that it wouldn't show AS WELL a loss of power or gain of power.

All that said - see what you guys think.


7pin 3/8 RS times - 20.3 20.3 20.8



8 pin 3/8 RS times - 22.1 21.8 22.9



7pin 404 RS times - 22.5 22.3 23.1



7pin 404 RSLF times - 25.7 25.9 25.7 25.8

 
I've been wanting to build a straight 284 on a savage long action so I can seat further out with the 175-190 grain bullets. I'm over the big magnums sinceover 1k yards is hard to come by in my part of the country. If I could shoot 2k then a 300 Norma or a 375CT would be my pick.
I shot my custom 264 yesterday. That Krieger barrel likes the berger 140gr hunting vld's the best so far. It held 1.05" at 375yds...slight wind too. Seating depth was standard length. I'll play with seating depth next. Next best were barnes tsx 120gr. that measured 2.7".
 
I've been doing some bar comparison, chain comparison, and sprocket comparison testing lately. Here is a test I did yesterday...

time - faster or slower then another combo, really doesn't matter to me. I am looking for consistency.

I was applying regular or just natural feel as far as pressure applied to saw/handle goes. I am not exactly sure what happened on the 3rd cuts. Maybe you guys can tell... But I do remember starting to think about the pressure I was applying on the saw/handle. Usually I don't think about it. I just go and do the test and my times are/have been consistent in the past.

Point - it taught me I just need to do it and not evaluate what im doing while in the cut. I seem to be just fine as long as I don't think about it.

Next consideration - which chain is most likely to help show it, if the saw has a gain in power or a loss in power.

7pin 3/8 RS - almost like the saw is too strong for this combo. Call me crazy but, to me it seems that the cutters get dull faster on the 661 then when I was testing 3/8RS on the 660 (which has a lot less torque). Anyway, due to the torque of the 661 I think this combo would look good almost no matter. In other words, the torque of the saw is so strong that even losing some power, the 3/8ths chain wouldn't really reflect it. Although, h1r did lose 7 seconds on avg in about a 30sec cut from 50:1 down to 32:1.

8pin 3/8 RS - Not sure I like this combo as you have to be more careful on the pressure. Seems easier to bog it down etc.

7pin 404 RS - Don't care for the wider kerf. But this stuff ...applying natural pressure is easy. Pretty much just self feeds. I think this combo would show a gain or loss in power pretty easily. The chain holds up amazingly well.

7pin 404 RSLF - seems like the times were the most consistent with this setup. Again self feed with natural pressure. But it doesn't really feel like your biting into the wood like with the RS. So part of me thinks that it wouldn't show AS WELL a loss of power or gain of power.

All that said - see what you guys think.


7pin 3/8 RS times - 20.3 20.3 20.8



8 pin 3/8 RS times - 22.1 21.8 22.9



Saw stock or ported?
7pin 404 RS times - 22.5 22.3 23.1



7pin 404 RSLF times - 25.7 25.9 25.7 25.8



Stock or ported?
 

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