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Quite the opposite, actually.

Even though it was unintentional, a recommendation to put Amsoil on your saw instead of in it is the funniest thing I have seen in any Amsoil thread. I was just trying to share the joke.

Instead of saying "yeah, that was a funny screw up", you get your feelings hurt, and go off on how I was splitting hairs and how grammar is inconsequential. I found that even more comical, probably because the kids I teach now are part of the self-esteem generation, and won't fess up to even the little mistakes.

Don't let your insecurities get in the way of having a laugh. Even if it is at yourself.

Bubba, you are wrong in your assumption.

My feelings weren't hurt at all. Honestly. Even though you didn't employ any of the online abbreviations or gremlins typically used to telegraph a humorous or joking post, I took your comments in the spirit of fun, and used those gremlins in my posts to indicate that I was funnin' ya right back. :D :D




Don't make me stop this car..............grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr:):)
 
Thanks parrisw, but now I'm confused by your previous post. It does say mix 100:1 with gasoline right on the label (back and front apparently).

Hey, ya sorry I can see how you can get that. It does say mix at 100:1, I didn't think it said that, but Its all how you read it I guess. If you read on, it does say.

use at richer mix ratios where desired
 
Hey, ya sorry I can see how you can get that. It does say mix at 100:1, I didn't think it said that, but Its all how you read it I guess. If you read on, it does say.

use at richer mix ratios where desired

As was pointed out earlier, if they would say "Please, please, PLEASE use at a richer mix ratio unless you are a compulsive gamber", we wouldn't be having these conversations.
 
The beef isn't with the oil, it's with Amsoils flawed marketing...again.
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No better words could be said, it's not the oil, it's the ridiculous marketing.
100:1/ 25K between oil changes etc.

It's these over the top claims that make them look like snake oil salesman, vs. the very legitimate company they may very well be, it's just hard to overlook their over the top marketing.
 
As was pointed out earlier, if they would say "Please, please, PLEASE use at a richer mix ratio unless you are a compulsive gamber", we wouldn't be having these conversations.

Yup your totally right.

I'm not part of the Amsoil CULT as some of you see it, I don't pay much attention to advertising, I form my own opinions, and listen closely to others opinions. Their claims to oil life for cars is just a tad far fetched. Maybe the oil doesn't break down by then but that's no all that matters, its the stuff that gets into the oil that you need to get out. I change all my car oils at 5000km, including my Diesel truck.
 
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I'm neither irritated nor angry.

Since there's no way to communicate a twinkle in your eye on an internet forum, the next conclusion suggests something like narcissistic personality disorder...

Dude, you're full of last week's turkey.
 
The beef isn't with the oil, it's with Amsoils flawed marketing...again.
Quote by the Snellerizer

No better words could be said, it's not the oil, it's the ridiculous marketing.
100:1/ 25K between oil changes etc.

It's these over the top claims that make them look like snake oil salesman, vs. the very legitimate company they may very well be, it's just hard to overlook their over the top marketing.

:agree2:
 
Yup your totally right.

I'm not part of the Amsoil CULT as some of you see it, I don't pay much attention to advertising, I form my own opinions, and listen closely to others opinions. Their claims to oil life for cars is just a tad far fetched. Maybe the oil doesn't break down by then but that's no all that matters, its the stuff that gets into the oil that you need to get out. I change all my car oils at 5000km, including my Diesel truck.

Will, the problem with car/truck oil change intervals is there are so many variables in operation.

If you have a car that's only doing 1500 miles every eighteen months or so, you'd be changing the oil at least every twelve to eighteen months, regardless of blend.

If, however, you were doing the miles my SO was at one stage towing horses to the big smoke with her Nissan, (5.5 hour trips minimum) I was doing oil changes every two and a half weeks when under warranty (5000km OCI specified in a 4.2 litre turbo diesel)

As soon as it was out of warranty I started using Delvac 1 (I had a few oil tests already under our belt using a very good mineral oil) and was able to stretch those oil changes to 20,0000km with less wear metals present, soot under control (barely any higher than @ 5000km) and in front financially, all while the thing was being worked hard.
It's not doing those sort of long trips any more, so I've pulled the oil change intervals back to 10,000km. all this with an oil that didn't comply with Nissan specs, it was too good :crazy:
BTW, that mineral oil I was using, one of Fuch's blends, would have been fine well out past 10,000km, maybe at least 15,000km without breaking into a sweat but Delvac 1 did deliver better results at the time. Bear in mind all the oils i was using back then have been reformulated a couple of times at least since, and how they run now may be totally different to what I achieved then.

Amsoil's big problem isn't even so much their own advertising, it's the evangelical rhetoric pushed by many unknowing dealers
 
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Will, the problem with car/truck oil change intervals is there are so many variables in operation.

If you have a car that's only doing 1500 miles every eighteen months or so, you'd be changing the oil at least every twelve to eighteen months, regardless of blend.

If, however, you were doing the miles my SO was at one stage towing horses to the big smoke with her Nissan, (5.5 hour trips minimum) I was doing oil changes every two and a half weeks when under warranty (5000km OCI specified in a 4.2 litre turbo diesel)

As soon as it was out of warranty I started using Delvac 1 (I had a few oil tests already under our belt using a very good mineral oil) and was able to stretch those oil changes to 20,0000km with less wear metals present, soot under control (barely any higher than @ 5000km) and in front financially, all while the thing was being worked hard.
It's not doing those sort of long trips any more, so I've pulled the oil change intervals back to 10,000km. all this with an oil that didn't comply with Nissan specs, it was too good :crazy:
BTW, that mineral oil I was using, one of Fuch's blends, would have been fine well out past 10,000km, maybe at least 15,000km without breaking into a sweat but Delvac 1 did deliver better results at the time. Bear in mind all the oils i was using back then have been reformulated a couple of times at least since, and how they run now may be totally different to what I achieved then.

Amsoil's big problem isn't even so much their own advertising, it's the evangelical rhetoric pushed by many unknowing dealers

Good info, thanks. Yes, I changed the oil in my truck after a year, I only did 4000km, I figured it was due. My truck, Ford 7.3L Powerstroke, is very demanding on its oil system, more so then any other diesel, so I treat it right, cheap insurance, those engines are very expensive to fix. I use Shell Rotella 15w40 and Wix filters. Oil changes aren't cheap either at 17L of oil, and a very large filter.
 
Flawed Marketing

In 1972 Amsoil Introduced the First, Full Synthetic, API Certified automotive engine oil . Their second product introduced, also in 1972, was what we know as SABRE PRO 100:1.

One would think, that if they were doing something so wrong they would either drop the product or be out of business.

Seems to me that now, with close to 100 products being marketed at present time, they must be doing something right.

https://www.amsoil.com/storefront/atp.aspx

https://www.amsoil.com/lit/g1363.pdf
 
I don't run oil in the crankcase of my airplane.

Just Saber at 100:1 in the fuel tank and away we go at Mach 17.

It's THAT good!!

Boils? Goiters? Cheesey sebacious dripping outta your ears?
No problem, Saber at 100000:1 with water and it cures them all!
Just put it on your pancakes.

Amsoil...it cures everything.:monkey:

It's friggin oil.

Stay safe!
Dingeryote
 
Just a few yrs older than your's P , but the Ole Navistar has never let me down ! As far as Synthetics I remember Pioneer Saw Oil Opti-100 (I think)
back in the early 80's that many were running at 70-1 in there saws . I cannot remember if it was a full synthetic , but do recall all the hype about it's micro filming action and anti galling properties , don't recall any seizing issues , I imagine I would have heard a few whines lol .
 
Well put.

My experience with Amsoil started 25 years ago, when my then FIL was a dealer in N.D. He was an Air Force pilot and a motorhead, and he ran Amsoil in all his vehicles, as did his children, and, eventually, me. I haven't always been able to afford Amsoil in the cars/trucks, but when I got heavy into 2-strokes several years back, Amsoil was the natural choice, one that I had confidence in.

If you strip the marketing hoohah away from any product and just listen to the people who have been using the product themselves and weigh what they say against your own barometer of life experience, you'll get a better sense of that product. It's no different whether you're talking chainsaw oil or hand lotion, hunting rifles or fishing rods.

People cocking off "knowledgeably" about products they have never used, or have barely used, are endemic in online informational forums such as this. Even an oil expert doesn't know how an oil is going to run until they run it. I listen to the smartest of the oilheads even if they haven't run Amsoil, because that's their field of expertise. But in the end I place more value on the opinions of those who use the product in their day-to-day work.

Just the way I'm looking at it. :) :)

Nicely put. Most who knock things whether it's an ms 250 or amsoil have chose to do so without testing or evidence of the product. I love the guy that says I would never even run a 250 because of the plasticy clamshell design yet hasn't done enough reasearch to know that they are a relaible saw that seldom needs repairs. The same for the guy that says if amsoil is so good why can't I find it anywhere yet has the internet at their disposal and with a $10 membership can purchase it for around the cost of mobil 1. Is it cult like? Maybe but for a 30% discount i'll play the tamborine. Most of the gripes i've seen are 100:1 and motor oil being ran for 25k which neither is something you have to do. I ran my home equipment on ultra since I had a six pack of it even after I went to saber and changed the plug in my bg55 yesterday and the top of the piston looks like somebody hit it with a flamethrower as to where my saws do not. Reason enough fo me. I know if you switched stihl ultras label with amsoils it would be the greatest mix on earth for 80% of the board members.
 
I always find it amazing how much time and effort people will spend bashing a product. Amsoil is a proven product and is one of the few products that is more than what it advertises. Anyone that has run it for any amount of time and cares about their vehicles/tools knows this.

Amsoil is on shelves only if a dealer signs a store up for over-the-counter sales. With the advent of the internet, it is irrelevant. Anyone can now sign up as a preferred customer and get dealer prices ordering the products right to their door. Amsoil has very quick service and in all the time that I have dealt with them, I have had ONE order messed up-not bad for a mail-order company.

I also have to laugh at how many people will spend big bucks on vehicles and then put cheap crap oil in them. Amsoil only has to be changed once a year and saves a bundle on service as well as protecting the vehicle. Other synthetics are also better than any petroleum.

The bottom line is that if anyone wants to keep using petroleum products, then have at it, but for my equipment it will be synthetic for everything because I want it to last.
 
I ran my home equipment on ultra since I had a six pack of it even after I went to saber and changed the plug in my bg55 yesterday and the top of the piston looks like somebody hit it with a flamethrower as to where my saws do not.

It's probably just me, but could you clarify this part?
I didn't quite get it. :confused:

Thanks :cheers:
 
Amsoil is a proven product and is one of the few products that is more than what it advertises. Anyone that has run it for any amount of time and cares about their vehicles/tools knows this.

"More" than what it advertises? Good god! Do you use it as a contraceptive as well?
 
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