Best 2 Stroke Oil?

[OM617YOTA]

who would run a saw at 16/1 these days, I had a new frontier saw in 1970 and the recommended mix then was 16/1 but two stroke oils back then was limited. It ran great nearly burst my ear drums cutting wood, if only I knew then what I know now

As I've shared before, I've done it before on accident with no issue. The post I was replying to said 32:1 would foul plugs and carbon up a saw, I was illustrating that that's simply not the case.

 

[Husky77]

As I've shared before, I've done it before on accident with no issue. The post I was replying to said 32:1 would foul plugs and carbon up a saw, I was illustrating that that's simply not the case.

maybe im lucky or just set up and run right but I never fouled a plug in anything. I did have a race bike back very many years ago that ran on 16/1 castrol R and at one meeting I used probably 8 plugs (champion) just setting it up, they didnt foul but just packed in and would spark out of the cylinder but not under compression. it took a while to work out and very frustrating but it was a faulty batch. From that day on I always used NGK plugs and never had a problem.

 

[Cycledude]

Well I have been using mostly 50-1 two stroke oil of various brands since the early 70’s and it has always seemed to work fine, I do find it interesting that so many folks refuse to run 50-1 two stroke oil despite the fact that’s what most manufacturers recommend.

 

[009Legend]

The best two stroke oil is:

1) The one you remember to mix
2) The one you like the smell of most

Going through some Valvoline Power Armour at the moment to clear up shelf clutter. Was mixed at 25:1 for the old mowers, but now at 40:1 for everything. Semi-synthetic, FC. It's actually pretty decent for the money. Stuff all smoke and almost odourless. One mower manufacturer reckons you can run 50:1 in their engines no worries on modern oils.

Usually use MotoMix for the other gear, but as alluded to above, cleaning up the shed and want to try some Penrite MC-2ST (FD, full synthetic ) just to see what that smells like. Plus it's red!

Will see what I do with my really old Pope mower from the 1950s. That wants 16:1 but ran fine on the Valvoline at 25:1. I'd be surprised if it didn't run fine at 50:1 on MotoMix or FC/FD rated oils, but parts are unobtainable so I'll just take baby steps with that one!

 

[johnfawn2000]

Sometimes I run Saber but mostly the Stihl synthetic. My only complaint with the Stihl synthetic is that it doesn't have an obvious color like blue or red. I used to mix at 64:1 but while that is still plenty of oil in the mix it does cut your buffer, so to speak, and an unnoticed air leak could create a lean condition to the point of damage. These days I mix everything at 50:1 and have never had a problem, and I'm still waiting for my first engine failure despite may hours of use. I know a guy who always mixes Saber at 100:1 and his equipment doesn't fail but you won't catch me doing that. But neither will I mix less than 50:1, especially if I'm weed-whacking for many hours and just marinating in a 2-stroke exhaust cloud.

Dear SCMtnhaul , what part the palmetto state are located. I am in henderson county off 26 to Asheville , what's left .They are still hunting people SCMtn , they are still missing at least 90, there is over thousand living motel and hotels , 40% of the timber is blow down or flooded . I live in the sticks or rural. There are roads where the water washed out culverts , and I found out will be hopefully a little before June to be repaired maybe. What I was asking
I have been using Saber and
Maxima K2 at 4 ozs, per gallon, that's 32 to one. I want to be little on the err side of caution. SC , can you tear up a saw or trimmer with too much oil. I remember in late 60' thru 70's was using the oil at 16 to1 and you could see the blue oil smoke rising up. I thought I would ask. The Saber is 100 to 1
not me. Let me kno your thoughts SCMTN. Buck in n.c.

 

[bwalker]

Here is Schaeffer's response to having one oil being JASO FD and TCW3 rated:

JASO FD is generally considered to have higher detergency and cleaning capabilities compared to TC-W3, meaning it is better at keeping the engine clean, while TC-W3 is primarily focused on lubrication and performance in marine applications like boat engines; however, both standards ensure adequate lubrication for two-stroke engines. When comparing TC-W3 and JASO FD oil specifications, TC-W3 has significantly lower ash content requirements, meaning it is considered "ashless" and is specifically designed to be very low in ash, while JASO FD allows for a higher ash level; this is because TC-W3 is primarily intended for marine outboard engines where low ash content is crucial to prevent exhaust system fouling, whereas JASO FD is a broader specification that can be used in various two-stroke engines with potentially higher ash content needs depending on application.



Essentially, our oil meets the TC-W3 ash requirements but since it also meets the higher detergency of JASO FD, it can meet both specifications.

However wrote that is clueless...

 

[bwalker]

Modern saws at 32:1 would foul plugs, build carbon, be low on power. It's too much oil! Loggers here run 40:1 and that's on modified saws.

You don't have a clue what your talking about.

 

[bwalker]

They produce some of the best petroleum products available. Been using them on the farm for 30-years without issues!

You really think some back yard blender like Schaeffers, that doesn't make a single drop of oil some how sells a product that's better than everyone else?