CBN Wheels with Pictures

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I have been running my ABN cyclone wheel for I think eight years could be nine by now and I have no complaints.

 

[JRepairsK70e]

i have a abn cyclone segmented wheel on my efco grinder ,have played around with oe angles and always end up with small burr on the top of the cutter ,chains seem to cut fine and after a cut the burr is gone ,have always wondered if other guys have this issue . i think a regular abrasive wheel leaves a keener edge ,but the cyclone never burns when you have to heal a rocked chain ,so i swap wheels depending on the condition of the chain to be dressed

 

[jbighump]

i jsut ordered a forester CBN wheel from a reputable sponser,, hopefully it is better than a regular wheel,,,, he said they use them in their shop and they work great....

 

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i have a abn cyclone segmented wheel on my efco grinder ,have played around with oe angles and always end up with small burr on the top of the cutter ,chains seem to cut fine and after a cut the burr is gone ,have always wondered if other guys have this issue . i think a regular abrasive wheel leaves a keener edge ,but the cyclone never burns when you have to heal a rocked chain ,so i swap wheels depending on the condition of the chain to be dressed

That bur is just the chrome plating and does not effect the edge in my experience and I have ground several 100 feet of chain.

 

[BloodOnTheIce]

I haven't had mine for very long, but I like it so far. You notice the weight a bit as the wheel does not slow down at all when grinding, and the machine takes forever to stop when you turn it off. Unless you really lean on it, it doesn't burn cutters. It definitely doesn't leave as nice of an edge as the normal wheels do, but it's just aesthetic. They cut just the same.

I got one of these wheels in yesterday and knocked out 8 chains with it this morning and I found all your
points to be true. My two favorite features are the lack of blueing, and a lot less dust than the standard pink wheels.
And since we do 30-50 chains a week, we go through a decent number a wheels every year, and hopefully
this will save us some $$$ over the standard ones.

Do these wheels require any dressing or maintenance?

 

[TK]

I got one of these wheels in yesterday and knocked out 8 chains with it this morning and I found all your
points to be true. My two favorite features are the lack of blueing, and a lot less dust than the standard pink wheels.
And since we do 30-50 chains a week, we go through a decent number a wheels every year, and hopefully
this will save us some $$$ over the standard ones.

Do these wheels require any dressing or maintenance?

The wheel does require a little cleaning, I find running a wire brush on the wheel while it's turning works well. Others have mentioned a cleaner like brake cleaner. You do far more chains a week than I do, I'm sure you'll find the in's and out's far sooner than I will. I will say that the wheel I got is perfectly balanced. I've noticed some of the other grinding wheels aren't balanced perfectly and I get a vibration in the machine from them. This wheel is as smooth as it gets. I did have to file the arbor a little bit to get it to fit the machine, it was just a tad too small.

 

[BloodOnTheIce]

The wheel does require a little cleaning, I find running a wire brush on the wheel while it's turning works well. Others have mentioned a cleaner like brake cleaner. You do far more chains a week than I do, I'm sure you'll find the in's and out's far sooner than I will. I will say that the wheel I got is perfectly balanced. I've noticed some of the other grinding wheels aren't balanced perfectly and I get a vibration in the machine from them. This wheel is as smooth as it gets. I did have to file the arbor a little bit to get it to fit the machine, it was just a tad too small.

That's good to know, about cleaning it, because i wasnt sure what to do for maintenance since
there wasnt any instructions. The last 5 or so wheels I used were poorly balanced and would shake the whole machine.
I don't what we do differently than the other shops but we average 30 chains a weeks during the slow season, and 50 a week
during the spring and summer.

 

[R DeLawter]

A cyclone will not out last a non segmented wheel as there is less contact surface area. Cyclones help to reduce weight as a few of the grinders are under powered and spinning a steel core wheel is a bit of a tax on them. There are so many variables that go into wheel life it hard to give number's. I have a few customer who have sharped any where from 6,500 -9,000 chains with one of the wheels i have made for them. He soaks all the chains over night in oil using a Plated CBN wheel 140/170 grit. It's all in the touch. I also have had guys go thru a wheel in a few hundred chains. If you keep a plated wheel from getting clogged up it will last with a good touch.

I have two different sizes of the solid wheels for my silvey grinders that I bought sometime around 1988-1990. We sharpened a lot of chains with them and they don't cut quite as good now.

Can they be re plated?

 

[super3]

Can they be re plated?

Yes

 

[R DeLawter]

Yes

My next question is where to get it done and cost verses buying a new one.

 

[R DeLawter]

I have two different sizes of the solid wheels for my silvey grinders that I bought sometime around 1988-1990. We sharpened a lot of chains with them and they don't cut quite as good now.

Can they be re plated?

Does anyone know a source to get the CBN wheels re-plated?

 

[Fish]

I just use the Oregon pink ones and don't worry about it, I started in a shop once that had the other ones, and all they did was burn cutters..

I just stuck to what I knew worked fine. Others may have had good luck.....

 

[MCW]

My Dinasaw wheels are still running fine Shaun and as yet have not had to be replated. I even have a 7mm depth guage wheel as well and as mentioned above a heavier, wider wheel would not only be hard to fit it would take a fair bit to start/stop. My Speed Sharp has no trouble spinning up either the 7mm wheel or the 4.5mm 3/8"-.404" wheel. The Dinasaw wheels are more expensive in the US than they are in Australia. If you were to import any other wheel to Australia the freight would kill it so definately go a Dinasaw. I've had no issues at all. The 4.5mm one sees a fair bit of work and would have ground well over a 1000 chains with no issues - I've never even cleaned it

Does anyone know a source to get the CBN wheels re-plated?

Dinasaw replate wheels but it's an Australian company and freight would be a killer

 

[44 elite]

Does anyone know a source to get the CBN wheels re-plated?

We strip and re-plate wheels.
Cost depends on their condition,grit to be re-plated with and the size of the wheel.
Pm me details and I can let you know what it would caost you to send it to me as US diamond

 

[SJK2]

Group Buy CBN Wheels

I know this thread is a couple years old, but the subject never dies
so my question is has anyone ever tried a group buy to lower the price
on these CBN wheels for the Oregon/Tecomec type grinders.???????

 

[44 elite]

As I have stated before I am a product engineer for us Diamond /Standard Diamond. We make new and also strip and re-plate existing wheels. I have helped out quite a few forum member's in the past and I am willing to help in any way.
I would be willing to set up a group buy or a discount structure. I would be open to only enduser's only as you guys would now be paying less than Distrubutor's of our's so no re-selling would be allowed. I don't know if I would then have to become a site sponsor. Depending on the cost that maybe an issue. Let me know interest and will see what I can do.

 

[SJK2]

44,
I would be in for a couple wheels. ie for .325 & 3/8 chain...........:msp_thumbup::msp_thumbup:

 

[Philbert]

Let me know interest and will see what I can do.

(Cautiously) interested. We are talking ABN and/or CBN, not diamond right?

With your background can you objectively describe the technical differences between the Dynasaw wheels that retail for $260 and the $100 Forester wheels? Thickness? Coating material? . . .

Thanks.

Philbert

 

[R DeLawter]

As I have stated before I am a product engineer for us Diamond /Standard Diamond. We make new and also strip and re-plate existing wheels. I have helped out quite a few forum member's in the past and I am willing to help in any way.
I would be willing to set up a group buy or a discount structure. I would be open to only enduser's only as you guys would now be paying less than Distrubutor's of our's so no re-selling would be allowed. I don't know if I would then have to become a site sponsor. Depending on the cost that maybe an issue. Let me know interest and will see what I can do.

Nice Job,

I had you re-plate a 8" wheel for me and it looks to be very nice. Thank You

I had posted on here that I will post a picture of it , And I will as soon as my right hand heals up. [ had to have a bone removed and still unable to use it. ]

I have only taken the re-plated wheel out of the box and looked at it.:msp_mellow:

 

[ents]

Certainly interested.