Central Va./Dinosaur50 GTG 2012

[igpoe]

motion pictures

Just one more. This one running Avgas and liking it! :sawmandaves' 640 Mac bowsaw - YouTube
Igpoe

 

[Pioneer fan]

Got a couple saws out today, and test fired them. Amazingly, they all fired with little effort, lol. Here is a video of my Sears U4G, just idling, warming up
Sears U4G - YouTube

 

[Pioneer fan]

My Dad's Pioneer P20...all original. OK, i have put a couple plugs in it , lol
Pioneer p20 - YouTube

 

[Pioneer fan]

Last, but not least,my craftsman 3.7 (poulan 3700). you guys that were at GoRving's GTG last year saw this one, in bone-stock form. Well, she went under the knife, I followed the info i found on here to the letter, ported it, and nixed the base gasket. The video does not do it justice, as it has a very rumbling idle. I have not really cut with it, just some small 4"-5" stuff, so it will be a surprise to me as well when it is ran at the GTG, lol
Ported Craftsman 3 7 poulan3700 - YouTube

 

[Pioneer fan]

Hopefully, if the weather holds, I should have a "first start" video of "piped poulan"2. This time it is a ported 2150, using same homemade pipe as the last one...hope this one holds together. I will provide more details on the mods i have done....once i know it will actually run and cut...lol

 

[dinosaur50]

Last, but not least,my craftsman 3.7 (poulan 3700). you guys that were at GoRving's GTG last year saw this one, in bone-stock form. Well, she went under the knife, I followed the info i found on here to the letter, ported it, and nixed the base gasket. The video does not do it justice, as it has a very rumbling idle. I have not really cut with it, just some small 4"-5" stuff, so it will be a surprise to me as well when it is ran at the GTG, lol
Ported Craftsman 3 7 poulan3700 - YouTube

i was at that gtg i rember it

 

[Pioneer fan]

Sorry, i don't remember alot of names from there....were you the guy asking me about the funny looking chain it had on it? IF so...it still has it, lol. I may gring those "dorsal-fin" style extra rakers off, becuase it is a full-chisel chain. Not sure exactly what purpose those thing serve, anyway.

 

[igpoe]

John,
I can't wait to see those Craftsman saws cutting as they seem to be very finely tuned. And it'll be good to see the ole '47 again. Will it still go? you apparently have been working on some saws since I last saw you and have learned even more. I'm envious of fellows like you that have the extreme patience to turn rags like that Mac 47 into a strong runner. If mine turn out to be strong, it's usually either blind luck or I bought it that way! I hope I can remember to bring you this Pioneer I found. I forget the model, but it's a fair size, missing the air box lid and the primer, but it'll run on a squirt! (edit: It's an 1160)
Dean

 

[dinosaur50]

no i was the one with the mac 47s that would not run

Sorry, i don't remember alot of names from there....were you the guy asking me about the funny looking chain it had on it? IF so...it still has it, lol. I may gring those "dorsal-fin" style extra rakers off, becuase it is a full-chisel chain. Not sure exactly what purpose those thing serve, anyway.

no i was the one with the mac 47s that would not run

 

[Guido Salvage]

no i was the one with the mac 47s that would not run

I think that I also had a couple there. Maybe someone can find them?

 

[dinosaur50]

John,
I can't wait to see those Craftsman saws cutting as they seem to be very finely tuned. And it'll be good to see the ole '47 again. Will it still go? you apparently have been working on some saws since I last saw you and have learned even more. I'm envious of fellows like you that have the extreme patience to turn rags like that Mac 47 into a strong runner. If mine turn out to be strong, it's usually either blind luck or I bought it that way! I hope I can remember to bring you this Pioneer I found. I forget the model, but it's a fair size, missing the air box lid and the primer, but it'll run on a squirt!
Dean

dean you are so right i wish i would have that kind of extreme patience to turn rags like that Mac 47 into a strong runner i think i might have it in me but i just need 2 larn so much more i know some but not a lot when it comes 2 get the old ones running aginia i want 2 larn it

 

[dinosaur50]

I think that I also had a couple there. Maybe someone can find them?

you did have a few thier 2 but me and david tryed 2 get the one 2 go i still need help with it we can ge it going but it needs points work and im not sure what im doing when it comes 2 points so i have not tuched it since then

 

[Pioneer fan]

John,
I can't wait to see those Craftsman saws cutting as they seem to be very finely tuned. And it'll be good to see the ole '47 again. Will it still go? you apparently have been working on some saws since I last saw you and have learned even more. I'm envious of fellows like you that have the extreme patience to turn rags like that Mac 47 into a strong runner. If mine turn out to be strong, it's usually either blind luck or I bought it that way! I hope I can remember to bring you this Pioneer I found. I forget the model, but it's a fair size, missing the air box lid and the primer, but it'll run on a squirt! (edit: It's an 1160)
Dean

Thanks, Dean. Naw, I don't believe the ole'47 is gonna make this one. She is sitting on the bench, with what i hope is a cracked ring. Does not have much compression, but i have not torn it down to see.

LOL, You know me, if I have to, i will fab an airbox lid from sheet-metal, and "engineer" a primer for that pioneer,lol.

 

[Pioneer fan]

no i was the one with the mac 47s that would not run

LOL, you and me, both. Mine fired the night before, and ran great. Got it to run ONCE, at that GTG, and that was it.

 

[Pioneer fan]

Piped Poulan first start - YouTube

O.K guys, she runs. This is the second incarnation of the "piped poulan". This is first start with pipe, basic tune, just to warm it up

 

[Pioneer fan]

PP4218AVX idle.mp4 - YouTube

A poulan Pro PP4218AVX, that has been midly ported, and strato-charging has been disabled. Yes, I am still tuning it, and it does have a "wandering" idle in this video,lol

 

[Pioneer fan]

Got a test cut in with the piped poulan. I used an old, crusty 4x4 as a test cant. This is a poulan 2150, 34cc's. I basically copied what Mastermind had done with his in the "wildthing races" thread, except i did not go with auxillary transfers. It has been hogged out as far as I dare go, and is running a walbro WT-215, that originally came on a 46cc poulan. In this video, it is running a 16' bar, and 3/8lp chain. The trickery is in the clutch. I adapted a clutch drum from a pioneerP20 using a bushing between the drum and original needle bearing. As you can see, that required carving up the clutch cover for room:msp_unsure: So I got a full 3/8, 7 pin drum, driving 3/8lp chain...seems to work..i guess.

the chain speed is insane, or, at least looks it. And the saw seems to hold it revs fairly well...I was pushing pretty hard in the vid. well here it is...enjoy...lol
Test Cut.mp4 - YouTube

 

[Pioneer fan]

you did have a few thier 2 but me and david tryed 2 get the one 2 go i still need help with it we can ge it going but it needs points work and im not sure what im doing when it comes 2 points so i have not tuched it since then

Bring it to the GTG,I will be more than happy to see what i can do to help get it going. As long as it is not fuel related, the rest of the saw is fairly simple and straight-foward.....Mac made up for this simplicity, with the "Rupe Goldberg" fuel system it has.

When mine actually runs, it is quite a powerful saw, Igpoe can tell you, when i brought it down to show i got it running, when i made the test cut, i dogged it in, and pulled up on the rear handle very hard, and she just kept digging.

I am looking into ways of eliminating the troublesome fuel system...but have not come up with anything yet:bang:

 

[dinosaur50]

sure i will bring it

Bring it to the GTG,I will be more than happy to see what i can do to help get it going. As long as it is not fuel related, the rest of the saw is fairly simple and straight-foward.....Mac made up for this simplicity, with the "Rupe Goldberg" fuel system it has.

When mine actually runs, it is quite a powerful saw, Igpoe can tell you, when i brought it down to show i got it running, when i made the test cut, i dogged it in, and pulled up on the rear handle very hard, and she just kept digging.

I am looking into ways of eliminating the troublesome fuel system...but have not come up with anything yet:bang:

sure i will bring it is not fuel related it a points porlbem they wont open and close right

 

[dinosaur50]

about 6 more weeks 2 go all to gtg time

about 6 more weeks 2 go all to gtg time