Climber Needed for Huge Take Down....

[teamtree]

Looking for a climber w/ experience working with cranes.

Target is a 100' / 48" DBH Beech Tree. The tree is cracking and needs to come down.

Job location: Southern Indiana.

Let me know what you would need to come for the day and help us out.

 

[Nailsbeats]

Get some pics of the operation if you can Teamtree. I know it's hard to sometimes, but it would be cool to see. Either way, sounds like a nice one.

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

Target is a 100' / 48" DBH Beech Tree. The tree is cracking and needs to come down.

So what would be in it for me, and does the crane operator and ground crew have any experience?

Having the right crane for the job site is important, having the biggest crane you can put on the site can slow things down.

 

[teamtree]

We will probably get a 40 ton crane and they guys I used in the past have limited experience but they seem to be good operators.

We are not like the rest of the industry as we only use a crane about 2-3 times a year. We usually rig trees down but this is not a tree in which you can rig down and the climber needs to be confident.

We will have a highly qualified ground crew on site for dealing with the brush as it comes down.

I will get pics ASAP.

What is in it for you? What is your daily rate? + travel & food

I let my climbers set there rate based upon time and risk factors and experience required.

 

[treeslayer]

Having the right crane for the job site is important, having the biggest crane you can put on the site can slow things down.

John. just curious, why? set up time is about the drawback I could think of. bigger the crane, the bigger the piece, the further the set aside.


you know crane work, that's for sure.

 

[Castenea]

bigger the crane, the bigger the piece, the further the set aside.

Not quite, in my experience the chokers are only rated ~10Klb, and the biggest picks are normally only 6-7Klb. This is often a piece as large as the landing area can accommodate, so a crane that can lift more is unnecessary normally.

 

[tomtrees58]

Not quite, in my experience the chokers are only rated ~10Klb, and the biggest picks are normally only 6-7Klb. This is often a piece as large as the landing area can accommodate, so a crane that can lift more is unnecessary normally.

:agree2: tom trees

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

piece as large as the landing area can accommodate, so a crane that can lift more is unnecessary normally.

Which is often the problem.

If you are in a situation where the work area is not confined, then the bigger is the better with huge trees. Big picks get the crane back on the road faster.

Often, you get a huge crane in and the weights get in the way of the turn. Using a smaller one gets you closer to the tree or a better range of motion, or both. Remember the post a while back where they used a 10 ton in the small back yard and passed the load to a 15 ton to move it to the log trucks and chipper?

Dave is used to renting a crane and getting as many storm jobs done in a day/week/moth as possible. I'm talking about renting the crane for the given jobs site characteristics.

 

[treeslayer]

all excellent points, and I must agree that for the single job, speed and efficiency are foremost. and John, you hit the nail on the head there.

as far as chokers, or slings, the sky's the limit. I've recently watched a 90 ton put 45,000 lbs on a stump with cable chokers. pretty wild. just rent a big crane, and tell them what to bring. you don't necessarily have to provide your own, that's when you're limited.

 

[ropensaddle]

I could be game! I would like to see some pics though!

 

[custom8726]

all excellent points, and I must agree that for the single job, speed and efficiency are foremost. and John, you hit the nail on the head there.

as far as chokers, or slings, the sky's the limit. I've recently watched a 90 ton put 45,000 lbs on a stump with cable chokers. pretty wild. just rent a big crane, and tell them what to bring. you don't necessarily have to provide your own, that's when you're limited.

Why?? sounds dangerous but maybe I am picturing something else?

 

[alloutdoorsboy]

is there an airport near you guys??? Too far to drive.

 

[treeslayer]

Why?? sounds dangerous but maybe I am picturing something else?

to break a stump loose that had blown over, on a big 6' DBH pine.

was dangerous, we had a blast.

 

[custom8726]

Beats grinding it I guess..

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

was dangerous, we had a blast.

That is an understatement, he was close to max on that for his angel/extension.

Should have had and excavator in to dig around it as it was picked.

What do you think ol' Billy woulda said if you asked him to do that There was one good OE.

 

[eddiesimril@aol]

When are you planninig on doing the job? Are there pictures avalible? Sounds like it could be fun!!!!

 

[Tree Machine]

Here's a Quicktime of a contract job I did earlier this Summer for a local company. Their team had a bet I couldn't do it spikeless. I lost the bet. I had them throw the spurs up for the last three trunk cuts. Could have done them off a ladder, but I really don't like ladders. Here's the time lapse video.

 

[TreeBot]

time lapse video.

Nice!

 

[ropensaddle]

I HATE THIS DIAL_UP :angry2: it took
five minutes to even see a picture it
must have been cool but I can't wait
all night Anyway why the crane
the tree from what I could see seemed
rig worthy!

 

[Tree Machine]

On that sycamore, it would have been a rigging op, but the company owner underbid it, then no one there wanted to do the climb because it was over a garage, porch and power lines. He called me to ask some advice. I crunched numbers with him and the only way he was going to salvage his day was to minimize the time on-site to a morning, and then go do another job in the afternoon.... or tell the owner you need more money..... or bail on it totally. He opted to honor his price.

We got the tree down and cleaned up an were rolling out by lunch. It wasn't that humongous of a tree, and the base cut, 4 feet across, was hollow to a degree, so that was helpful, and we didn't hit any foreign objects so it was a good day. I should have just worn the spikes. It was unnecessarily physical on a few of those long limbs. I should have had a second sling, or wire rope choker. That held up progress a bit.


On a really big lightning strike oak a couple months later the crane operator lifted me up to the high tie-in point, we brought down a couple limbs and one of the ground guys yelled up, "Hey, ya want your spikes???" I just totally forgot them at the base of the tree. "I'll let ya know if I do." At the moment we were jamming and I didn't want to take the time and hold everyone up, plus the limbs had plenty of branches everywhere.

I never put them on because once we got it pared down to a 40 foot trunk, there was no need to lift it anywhere, just lay it down. The crane operator was a bit nervous, understandably, but it went OK. 5-1/2 feet across on that baby. 6 hours, he was the slowest crane operator I've ever used, I was pullin my hair out I had a second sling this day, but it doesn't help a whole lot if you get rigged and then have to wait.