Dear Woodie I am not dancing , I'm calling it as I see it. I realize many can't understand how come Thall didn't come up and say hey man Stihl will take care of that like he usually does when he see's a fault. I see a fault in the cylinder, no question on that, its crappy looking. Thats probly the 10th time I've said that btw. As this thread unfolded I've seen things that appear even worse than that cylinder, much worse. None of that matters to me, the only concern and the only question that was never answered is how does the saw run. I hear that does not matter, that is not the point, since when? That is the only point of a chainsaw, how well it runs and cuts, thats it and thats all. If the flaws in that cylinder do not affect the performance of the saw there is little ground to stand on to get a replacement cylinder free of charge, especially in this case when the saw was torn apart for what, profit, not because of a running issue.
I stated before if that saw was brought in with a complaint its not running right and I tore it apart and decided that crappy looking cylinder is the problem it would be replaced at no charge with a much better looking cylinder. None of this has taken place with this saw. Once again no ground to stand on for a free cylinder.
Now to Stihl and that cylinder from Brasil. Its been said Stihl pulled a fast one. Their quality is falling off, they are getting sneaky, they are cutting cost, the list is amazing considering not one single word of it can be taken as fact when its all assumtion. We have 4 saw builders saying these things, we have Brads cylinder as proof. If everything thats been said is true then there are another 7 million crappy cylinders being shipped out this year. Most will be Mahle, the same maker other saw makers are using. Sorry Woodie but I'm not buying it because of less than a hand full of cylinders. If 20,000 bad cylinders go out this year, not crappy looking but bad, out of 7 million you may get my ear. I know the camp Husky can relish in that hand full of cylinders, I find that funny considering Stihl is in a much better position than them, and no Husky man can dispute that with they just did a few months ago. Oh thats not the point, we're talking about a crappy looking cylinder, Stihl is going downhill and on and on and when we know for a fact who is going down by way of the pink slips, like it or not thats the facts as to who is really down, not assumtions, facts.
Far as ethics go I know mine are in tact but I got to wonder about yours and others. I know how the game is played around here, I know who the players are and I know how these threads work. I enjoy them and rarely ever get serious about anything. I really don't give a hoot in hell about saws at all but they are fun to fuss over, I like it. That said don't ever think I'm going to sit back and let you have your fun and me not get mine. You know as well as me you have nothing to offer cept bash Stihl every chance you get and thats fine, Fast does the same, though I wish he would quit knocking my customers, thats low, but anyway if the name of the game is hey there's a Stihl thread going on, lets go get on Hall, and that seems to be the case bigtime with you and Fast, thats all fine and well, I love it. That said if your questioning my ethics because I too like to have fun and send the BS right back then sorry Woodie, your gonna have to accept it. Neither you or Brad or anyone is gonna keep this cat from pouring it on when its being poured on. I like to mix it up and yes I'm gonna toss in things people don't like or can't take. I was called to this thread by Fast and hey ok, I'm here. Course I woulda come calling sooner or later, I can't pass up a BS thread like this and thats exactly how I see this thread, alotta fun, alotta asumtions, a crappy looking cylinder, to that I say BFD, cry me a river and get over it, but the fun, awwwwwwwwwwwwww yes, that I like. Ethics is two fold Woodie, you want ethics, start looking at everyones ethics, not just those you chose to, DEAL? If not oh well, DISMISSED! You knew I would use your own line on you sooner or later so shush punk!!
