do we need more moderation?

[John Paul Sanborn]

I've had a few questions lately as to why I don't move threads to forums wher ethey are more "on topic".

I guess some of the problem is that I've allso posted to some of these threads whith dry humor that was not recognized as such.

Part of the reason is that I've not been reading every post to the baord for quite a while now, and some I just skim through to vet the nature of the posting (I pass over all of Kenny's postings, he's not going to do anything tasteless, and I just walk away confused (I'm kidding Ken!).

So what do you all think, should I move threads over the Pest&Fert or Equipment if that is more where they belong, or since they are asked by commercial tree people to commercial tree people, I leave it alone?

I vote for moving them, just becasue I would like to see more traffic in the other forums.

I just got sick of the more vocal people complaining whenever they noticed I moved soemthing.

 

[NeTree]

If that's where they belong, put 'em there. What's the big deal?

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

When I did do it, people complaind.

When I dont do it people complain. Just fewer people.

I'm looking to see if the consenus is to tighten back up on it.

 

[TREETX]

Originally posted by John Paul Sanborn
When I did do it, people complaind.

When I dont do it people complain. Just fewer people.

I'm looking to see if the consenus is to tighten back up on it.

Some of the people some of the time, most of the people most of the time, but never all of the people............ :Monkey:

 

[begleytree]

I personally think there are too many topics here. Other boards I'm on have a general and equipment topic, and others have a general commercial discussion where anything can be posted and read by more folks thereby getting more and better answers.
There's so many topics here that I only have time to concentrate on the CTCAC topic. Can't sit here all day looking, have work to do.
IMO, it needs broken down into more topics, or lumped together into less. I vote less topic forums.
There really needs to be a general BS topic, most questions here seem to get 1-2 answers, then become a meeting and BS place for the few members here who want to chat to each other all the time. Makes it hard to get to the meat of a question. I usually give up on the poster's question and leave the chatters to their conversation.
-Ralph

 

[begleytree]

Why the he11 can't I edit my post?????

I was going to add: If you are going to be so picky about what goes where, then why are climbers posting on the commercial forum? Isn't or shouldn't it be reserved for contractors and tree company owners? What does an hourly rope jockey know about the commercial side of the tree buisness anyway? -Ralph

Now watch the original question degenerate onto conversation!!

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

We call the BS forum the Off Topic Forum.

If we eliminated all the oneliners from the threads then we would no longer be what we are today.

By allowing the regulars to interact a little more then other places, we keep a large number of people coming back. That makes it possible for people to get timely answers to their questions.

I too am guilty of diverging into total non sequiture exchanges. Once you do this for a while you learn to skim over a thread, to find meat.

The challange is to keep the tone civil so that we do not drive too many people aways.

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

Originally posted by begleytree
What does an hourly rope jockey know about the commercial side of the tree buisness anyway? -Ralph

Most of us are both climber and owner of micro companies, which is why we started out with the Commercial Tree Care and Climbing instead of two seperate forums.

If we had a a seperate Commercial forum it would probably have the activity of the Pest and Fert forum.

 

[ORclimber]

Originally posted by begleytree
What does an hourly rope jockey know about the commercial side of the tree buisness anyway?

Think that's sarcasm.

IMO the pesticide and climbing forums should be the same. Rope jockeys are the front lines of arboriculture, and anyone who climbs knows that things look different from in the tree. A climber can see problems that a salesman can't from the ground. But if the rope jockey doesn't know what to look for....

It's been said here before but, there is a lot more to tree care than what can be accomplished with a chainsaw.

The more phc that us rope jockeys are exposed to, the better arborists we will be.

The moderators on this site are doing great, we don't need no stinkin' moderator Nazi's.

 

[rumination]

remember the old adage: all things in moderation (pun intended

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[TheTreeSpyder]

Speak of the devil and out of the dust of a bad XP upgrade/crash ..............:blob5: the lil'MF'er appears; don't that jest tick ya off.........? i know you're kidding JP; too easy to put me on ignore; accept i can't put myself on ignore; and find that a downright discriminatory practice!

i think breaking the info up into smaller categories aids research over time through this segregation. But that same segregation can take the stuff out of the mainstream and drop awareness that way. i kinda said the same thing about segregating the Injuries and Fatalaties; there is a possibility that sonme of that gets missed; important lessons segregated from the mix.
So i try to be aware to look there and stay sharp in that way too.

i feel not many do, especially on a timely basis; what if there was a reminder at the top of more active forms like Climbing/Saws to show when one of the less traveled forums has something, until that forum perhaps gathers enough velocity on it's own? In this way the segregation for research would be achieved, yet alerting to traffic and concerns in quieter forums would bring those itmes more into a natural mix of concern and awareness initially also to neutralize the initial effect of the segregation? In this way more people that just jump to favorite forum would have a chance to know that this is the one time out of 20 visits to check the Injury and Fatalaites Forum for a fresh post to maintain awareness that way; also would tend to build the forum as a seperate entity?

i think JP's point of a rounded people place of human chemistry is more balanced and lifelike than dry re-search totally could not reach is very valid. And i also reflect too, that the extra chemistry should just be to the positive, light side; not negative; for that will be the better place for all to share; more conducive of participation and return trips. Plenty of other places for lower quality options; few for equal or higher; so "Why Not" have it like that?. i have always taken that as being meant by JP's 'jockular humor' / comradre / non-warring comments being okay, and a more lively/dynamic format.

i guess that there is only one letter differance betwixt D-egenerate and R-egenerate into another conversation or example of conversation about conversation........... Orrrrrrrrrrrrr something like that!

:alien:

 

[NeTree]

Anybody who thinks WE have too many forums ought to go look at Lawnsite.com or ford-trucks.com ...

...now THAT'S alot of micro-management in action.

 

[MasterBlaster]

Although I seem to post the most in the tree care forum, what forum it is doesn't really matter much to me.
I log on and hit 'view new posts'.

 

[Guy Meilleur]

Too much of ctcac is mechanical equipment stuff--needs to be moved to eqpt forum.

 

[NickfromWI]

Please put things in the appropriate forums, JPS!

love
nick

 

[Davidsinatree]

I started a thread on chippers on CTCAC because as you will notice there is no traffic down on used equipment. I started a thread down there and got.........2 hits.
Its only natural for someone to go where the action is so I stayed with CTCAC to enter more info about the chipper i'm looking at. I got 3 pages of some good info on my thread, i'm very pleased with that. IMO for now untill this site gets bigger, if you want to ask something about equipment directly related to tree trimming it should be ok. If my thread would have been moved I would have been cool with it.........after all, its just a thread. However I would not try to sell anything here, that should be on another forum.
I feal that CTCAC is healthy the way it is with light moderation.
You be the judge, keep up the good work JP.

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

Looks like I'll start moving posts again to mor topical forums.

 

[Kneejerk Bombas]

I have a solution that may make everyone happy.
How about moving blatently off topic threads right away, and other slightly off topic threads, like a chainsaw question or a chipper question, after they have run their course and moved to the second page.
That would give them the exposure the author wanted, and keep the archives clean (on topic). It would also give the thread a second life in a different forum and add to the slower forums archives.

 

[MasterBlaster]

Best idea yet, Mike!

 

[Tom Dunlap]

Like MB, I start by opening the "View New POsts" button under my name. That way I can get caught up no current threads. If I've been gone for more than a week I go to the forums.

If JPS has the time and inclination, shufle the deck. Another possibility that has worked on other, non-tree forums, is to have a generic response to put in as soon as you see that somethin is in the wrong forum. Pretty soon people pick up on the netiquette and follow the quidelines.

Tom