efco chainsaws from Baileys (good/bad) ?

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The HP ratings on the tags at the store are a little lower than comparable models. The 20" saw is 56.5cc and produces 3.9hp. A Dolmar 5100 produces more HP at $80 less. The 18" is 3.2hp 51.7cc. You can get a Husky 353, Dolmar 5100 and do better than those numbers.

Not even mentioning that this would be a big boxstore purchase and there is no service after the sale. I would rather support my local dealer.

Before it was Stihl and Husky now you bring Dolmar into the mix, I'd think the Dolmar 5100s is the best buy in the chainsaw world if you know how to tune a saw. Seems like the 353 Husky cost more than the 51cc Efco and is NOT built as good and most likely has less power in real life. Over here my 49.6 cc Echo cuts faster than my 53cc Rancher 55 and we all know Echo's have no power. Steve
 
Seems like the 353 Husky cost more than the 51cc Efco and is NOT built as good and most likely has less power in real life. Over here my 49.6 cc Echo cuts faster than my 53cc Rancher 55 and we all know Echo's have no power. Steve

Does the 46/51cc Efco have a magnesium case like the 353? I didn't think the cases were magnesium till the 56/62cc series.
 
Before it was Stihl and Husky now you bring Dolmar into the mix, I'd think the Dolmar 5100s is the best buy in the chainsaw world if you know how to tune a saw. Seems like the 353 Husky cost more than the 51cc Efco and is NOT built as good and most likely has less power in real life. Over here my 49.6 cc Echo cuts faster than my 53cc Rancher 55 and we all know Echo's have no power. Steve

When you brought only pro saws into the mix, I had to go to Dolmar. Even the homeowner Stihls and Huskies come up with better numbers, even if the build quality might not be the same. I mean for the price of the 20" Efco, you get more power at $80 less in the 310 or the same power with the 455 at the $400 price mark.
 
When you brought only pro saws into the mix, I had to go to Dolmar. Even the homeowner Stihls and Huskies come up with better numbers, even if the build quality might not be the same. I mean for the price of the 20" Efco, you get more power at $80 less in the 310 or the same power with the 455 at the $400 price mark.

Where did I bring pro saws into the mix, reading back you mentioned the Dolmar 5100s first when the talk was about Husky and Stihl saws and you know that Husky and Stihl pro saws cost way more per cc than Efco saws do. Husky and Stihl homeowner saws might be around the same price per cc as Efco but are not built as good with the 353 and 359 being more mid range but again costing more. The 353 is not to bad at around $400 but I,d take the Dolmar 5100s for around $375 any day over any saw out there. I for sure wouldn't go by Stihl's inflated HP numbers on thier homeowner saws, I don't think Husky inflates them to much but they lower in most cases. Some day someone might explain to me how a MS260 at 3.2 hp cuts almost the same as the MS290 at 3.8 hp without a lot of bs. Steve
 
... Some day someone might explain to me how a MS260 at 3.2 hp cuts almost the same as the MS290 at 3.8 hp without a lot of bs. Steve

Most likely because of a better and wider powerband, even though the 260 isn't state of the art in that respect either.....

The max hp rating is just a "snapshot" of one point on the power/torque curves.

Btw, the 260 still is rated at 3.5hp outside the US - I believe the difference is in the muffler.
 
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Most likely because of a better and wider powerband, even though the 260 isn't state of the art in that respect either.....

The max hp rating is just a "snapshot" of one point on the power/torque curves.

Btw, the 260 still is rated at 3.5hp outside the US - I believe the difference is in the muffler.
I would think the MS290 should have the better and wider power band as it has more cc, it should have more torque. It's just overrated by Stihl plain and simple. You got the snapshot part right, thats about how long the MS290 3.8 hp lasts. Steve
 
No experience with the larger model, but the 50 cc. is great. Still like the Dolmar 5100 better, but with a very slight muffler mod, my Efco (Cub) came alive. Got it on close out at TSC before Bailey's was selling them or mine would probably not be yellow. Got a bar and a couple chains from Bailey's before they were advertising the saws. A very nice saw--for my money it's on par with Stihl and Husky in that class. Have heard good things about the bigger ones, too.
 
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I would think the MS290 should have the better and wider power band as it has more cc, it should have more torque. It's just overrated by Stihl plain and simple. You got the snapshot part right, thats about how long the MS290 3.8 hp lasts. Steve

Must be why the 290 is the best selling saw out?:monkey:
 
Are you comparing them to Husky and Stihl homeowner saw. Efco's are biult WAY better and have more power per cc than those. Steve

If I have to compare them to a better build quality and can't use the Stihl/Husky homeowner line, then wouldn't I have to go to the pro saws?
 
Howdy,
Our sales on the Efco's isn't anywhere near the Husqvarna sales. The Efco's seem to ship out and stay out. So I'll give them a plus on dependability. We haven't had them long enough to judge durability, but I haven't seen any played out yet. When it comes to performance, they remind me Dolmar's before the Japanese through all the bucks towards R&D. What I mean by this is that the power to weight ratios are a few years behind Husqvarna and Stihl. For instance, the MT 7200 is very similar to a Husqvarna 272. They are more of a "torque" rather than "RPM" type of saw.
Regards
Gregg
 
Good posts Gregg. Very informative.


I just wish some people would take Andreas Stihl's #### out of their mouth before blabbering like fools, for at least a little while. Its very tiring and rarely funny.
 
Howdy,
Our sales on the Efco's isn't anywhere near the Husqvarna sales. The Efco's seem to ship out and stay out. So I'll give them a plus on dependability. We haven't had them long enough to judge durability, but I haven't seen any played out yet. When it comes to performance, they remind me Dolmar's before the Japanese through all the bucks towards R&D. What I mean by this is that the power to weight ratios are a few years behind Husqvarna and Stihl. For instance, the MT 7200 is very similar to a Husqvarna 272. They are more of a "torque" rather than "RPM" type of saw.
Regards
Gregg
I can never figure why people talk about Husky and Stihl as if they are all the same quality and power to wieght when there is a lot of difference between the pro saws and the bottom of the line. You must be talking about Husky and Stihl pro saws in the above statment. Steve
 
Howdy,
You're right, I should have pre-qualified that statement. I'm talking apples and someone reading might be thinking oranges. Could cause a lot of confusion. You can cherry pick models form any manufactures line up. I'm using Husqvarna and Stihl as comparisons because the preponderance of both their current production models are above what I consider average. I feel this is what makes them the bell-weathers for this industry.
 

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