Ethanol Free gas

[rjsdolp]

Im with you on this!

I just use the Puregas app and use non ethanol in all small engines I own.

I am an intermittent user of my saw. I have never had a fuel-related problem even though the saw often sits idle for up to 6 months sometimes. But I would still prefer E0 when I can get it.

If you’re using ethanol fuel you will have issues sooner or later. There is an app … Puregas that is very useful.

 

[bwalker]

That's how I used to run my generator until I had to replace the fuel pump, witha10 Hp. Briggs.
I'm not sure if that caused it to fail, or if it was coincidence.

I've ran stuff dry and left the float bowls full. I have heard guys say running stuff dry kills rubber parts. I can't say if that's true or not.

 

[rjsdolp]

I've used regular fuel for years without much problem. One mower we have is over 30yrs old, gets regular unleaded and runs fine. I think it's more hype to use non ethanol gas than anything and you are wasting your money.
Boy will I get attacked for this.

I’m sure a lot depends on machine manufacturer and how long fuels stands before it’s used. I know it screws up everything Stihl that I own. Puregas app is very helpful.

 

[Paul Bunions]

Here's something weird: I have Echo's biggest leaf blower. I can let it sit with regular gas, and nothing happens. Can't do that with any other small engine I have.

 

[MRCLYDE]

I've ran stuff dry and left the float bowls full. I have heard guys say running stuff dry kills rubber parts. I can't say if that's true or not.

I run my generator only when we loose power so I use regular pump high octane fuel. When power is restored I drain the tank, then run it dry.

After it quits I put a pint or so of race fuel in the tank, and restart it, then let it run for a few minutes. That leave a little in the sump, fuel line and carb.

I don't leave any carb dry to avoid drying out the rubber that you mentioned above. Those precautions give me a one pull start next time I need it.

I've been using the same machine for 3 decades with no problems or repairs other than a fuel pump, it works for me.

 

[Hermio]

I just use the Puregas app and use non ethanol in all small engines I own.

If you’re using ethanol fuel you will have issues sooner or later. There is an app … Puregas that is very useful.

The puregas app lists stations that do not have E0 as having them in my area, and does not list the one station I found that has it. Maybe they have better info in other parts of the country.

 

[SteveSr]

The puregas app lists stations that do not have E0 as having them in my area, and does not list the one station I found that has it. Maybe they have better info in other parts of the country.

Well, the app (and website) use crowd sourced data. If you find errors just go to the website and either add or remove stations as necessary. I recently removed a local station that used to sell E0. The have a separate tank and dispenser for E0. The attendant says that the dispenser is busted... has been since early May. Not likely to get fixed apparently.

 

[dboyd351]

I think the Puregas site is sporadic because it relies on people reporting to it. I think the stations on there used to carry non-ethanol, but may not still do so. My approach if in an area with few non-ethanol sources is to use Puregas to locate potential sources, then call the stations to confirm that they still have it before driving out there.

 

[Hermio]

I think the Puregas site is sporadic because it relies on people reporting to it. I think the stations on there used to carry non-ethanol, but may not still do so. My approach if in an area with few non-ethanol sources is to use Puregas to locate potential sources, then call the stations to confirm that they still have it before driving out there.

One station it listed was a Speedway. There were no E0 pumps there. I doubt they ever had them, as it would be costly to remove them.

 

[dboyd351]

why couldn't you just put regular ethanol in the tank and relabel the pump?

 

[Hermio]

why couldn't you just put regular ethanol in the tank and relabel the pump?

They only have 3 choices listed: 87, 89 and 92 octane. All are E10. If they had ever had E0, it would need to be a 4th choice. BTW, if they all come from one hose, if you are only getting a gallon or two, you will get a quart or so of whatever is in the hose, which is usually E10. If you truly want it to be E0, buy only from those who have a separate hose or pump.

 

[OM617YOTA]

Around here the E0 stations sell E10 regular, E0 premium, and no mid-grade, which is normally made by mixing both regular and premium.

 

[dboyd351]

They only have 3 choices listed: 87, 89 and 92 octane. All are E10. If they had ever had E0, it would need to be a 4th choice. BTW, if they all come from one hose, if you are only getting a gallon or two, you will get a quart or so of whatever is in the hose, which is usually E10. If you truly want it to be E0, buy only from those who have a separate hose or pump.

typical engineer
great at explaining in detail all the reasons why something will not work
not so great at getting it to work

 

[Hermio]

typical engineer
great at explaining in detail all the reasons why something will not work
not so great at getting it to work

Ridiculous comment. I did not give any reasons why something will not work. I merely stated things the way they are. But I will now state how to get it to work. To dispense E0, you need a tank full of E0 and a dedicated button to select E0, preferably with its own hose so you don't get a hose full of E10 or E15 when you start pumping.

 

[RedneckChainsawRepair]

All you need is to test and easy to do.

Efree really efree. I check. Mine with it's own hose always been.

Last batch. One efree, one with E in it. I do both to show folks differences.

 

[9050LX]

Have had NO carb problems in the last 15 years with any of my engines using Ethanol-free. Its impressive.

 

[EchoShindaiwaMakitaDolmar]

Regarding the website(s) having fuel stations listed that don't even have E0 pumps- it wouldn't surprise me if the site staff intentionally listed stations without any knowledge of the stations' fuel products- because content is king and they need site traffic.

 

[Hermio]

Have had NO carb problems in the last 15 years with any of my engines using Ethanol-free. Its impressive.

I have had no carb or other fuel-related problems with any of my engines running E10, either, with the exception of my Stihl brush cutter, which has been known to sit for a year or more between uses. But any fuel goes bad when left to sit that long. I now drain it between uses. I still prefer to use e0 when I can get it, as a bit of an insurance policy.

 

[thenne1713]

One station it listed was a Speedway. There were no E0 pumps there. I doubt they ever had them, as it would be costly to remove them.

Locally, our EO tanks/ stations vary, (vary much by my standards), within last 5-yrs. Have talked w/ several as I searched to verify before driving 30-minutes. Truck wreck, tank leak/ EPA tank permit issues, Covid influences. Last talked almost 5-minutes to one guy for almost 5-minutes b4 another employee told him YES, they did have E0 and tank was full.

 

[bwalker]

I run my generator only when we loose power so I use regular pump high octane fuel. When power is restored I drain the tank, then run it dry.

After it quits I put a pint or so of race fuel in the tank, and restart it, then let it run for a few minutes. That leave a little in the sump, fuel line and carb.

I don't leave any carb dry to avoid drying out the rubber that you mentioned above. Those precautions give me a one pull start next time I need it.

I've been using the same machine for 3 decades with no problems or repairs other than a fuel pump, it works for me.

The only carbs you need to leave fuel in due to rubber parts are diaphragm type carbs as found on saws, trimmers, etc. And even then ai am not sure it matters. Maybe @Hermio could speak to that.