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I might have tickled the hinge a little but the tree did fall right where it was suposed to go. They were waiting out the wind. Heck I would have probably thrown rocks at the tree just for fun but then I'm one of those guys who is always throwing rocks.

Oh yeah! I love throwing rocks, doesn't even have to be a target.
 
Randy says throwing rocks is ok, then I question if he is a real faller. I pro will not exhibit childish unprofessional behavior or say that it ok to do it on film. If these guys on the video are suppose to be certified fallers then why is that they show childish behavior:dizzy:
 
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Randy says throwing rocks is ok, then I question if he is a real faller. I pro will not exhibit childish unprofessional behavior or say that it ok to do it on film. If these guys on the video are suppose to be certified fallers then why is that they show childish behavior:dizzy:

Listen here skidmark, I'll throw a gawdammed rock, whenever and wherever I dammed well feel like it.
You must feel pretty safe typin' this crap out, hidin' in your bunghole, spewin' worthless verbage for us to laugh at.
This personal stuff will stop, you have slandered enough, you have not put up one single good example of your work.
Oh and you have one thing right, I am not currently a pro faller. My pro days are behind me, I have no reason to lie about it and have never said that I was still killing trees for a living. Yep, there you have, I'm a has been. I earned my spurs, if you say one more disparaging word about anyone else, ever again, I will dug them bastards in your back like a drunk Vaquero.
Consider this your last warning, I will find you, I know how, I have an APP for that. Now go snivel at the mods and get me banned you cheesy twerp.
 
You really are a fool HBRN please crawl back into the hole you came from, I feel so sad that you make every thread you post on so cheap and that you are given every chance to change your manner makes it even more shameful.
 
Wedges

There is new styles of wedges that may be worth the extra dollars. Having a a variety of wedges can make tree falling safer and easier. For me the Stihl branded wedges seem fairly hard. The best wedge for beating hard on is the hard head variety. You never have to many wedges in the falling bag.
 
So tells us about them ? For a guy that said in several posts on the chainsaw section that you just did fire wood now you seem to now be a fulltime faller ?
I see you are looking at this now, I'm not bashing you or do I hate you I just don't get why you see the need for lies and rubbish ? I look forward to your info and link to the " new wedges "
 
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Well it is an instructional video so all the time needed to explain the situation should be taken. Remember USFS employees are working at a different pace than production fallers. Their goal is to came home safely, in the case of the video, after falling fire damaged snags and trees. This is extremely hazardous work! Plus once you have the tree faced up you can take your time to make sure everything is going according to plan. I suppose they have to do a JHA before each tree is cut anyway. FS (and BLM) works long hours in rough conditions, no need to hurry.

They also often leave the biggest nastiest trees for specialty fallers. Smart move there!

You're right. That is a line of work I know nothing about and therefore my trap should have been kept shut. I can be a cynical ####### from time to time, must be the kraut in me. That cookie cutter remark was a low blow though! My little lady does all the cookie cutting around here. Shes a damn good cook and won't take no for an answer!
 
Randy says throwing rocks is ok, then I question if he is a real faller. I pro will not exhibit childish unprofessional behavior or say that it ok to do it on film. If these guys on the video are suppose to be certified fallers then why is that they show childish behavior:dizzy:

Nothing wrong with throwing rocks. I do it a lot. I'd like to throw some right now.

And I agree with RandyMac...my best days as a faller are behind me. I still do it but not at the pace I used to.

I guess that makes me a has-been. But...better to be a has-been than a never-was. Or a never-could-be. Like you.
 
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The thing about the video of the FS fallers was the unprofessional behavior shown. A true professional faller would not be be seen throwing rocks at a properly faced and back cut tree because they failed to have the right equipment to do the job.

A professional faller would not be seen throwing rocks at a forestry and logging forum, either...
 
Perhaps we should start a rock throwing thread? :msp_rolleyes: I'd be bad, I throw like a girl.
Rock throwing is like a sport in the woods. What does one do when one is waiting? Waiting for a ride? Waiting for something to get fixed, waiting for somebody to show up....and so on. The other alternative is sleep.

You pick out a target--preferably something that won't throw back, and you start tossing rocks at it.

Rock throwing is an intergenerational sport. We took some kids out and there wasn't a lot to see because one operation was broke down. So, we stopped by a creek. The kids were antsy but when the forester (not me) saw a rock in just the right place with a drill hole in it, he yelled FIVE BUCKS IF YOU GET A ROCK IN THAT HOLE and the kids were busy. The money was safe. I came closest, and I was the worst thrower.

HBRN, you are starting to sound just like one of them Chinese spammers.
 
The point about the rock throwing is that they showed bad taste by showing it on video. The guys are representing the the USFS and should act like such, not like a bunch of firewood hackers. I am like a lot of guys that had a decent job and something changed. I do the odd falling jobs to help keep up the skill and make a little extra money to survive the economic collapse in my area. Around here there is not much money to be had cutting firewood. I only cut some for a family member and few friends. The thing that is funny on here is much some people hate a change in anything :help: People that need the big trees felled have only a couple of guys to do it, I am one of the few locals that gets called.Being prepared to fall any tree means having all the tools for any problem that could arise. I posted this video to point out why 6" wedges are better then 8",10" or 12". This video clearly shows that if they had 6" wedges that the tree would have gone over easier and with out the waiting time.
 
Am astounded yet again , you said that the biggest saw you were going to have, apart ffrom a 046, was a 051 that you were going to put a 42" bar on to cut up some blow down for fire wood now you are one of the only locals to be called for "any tree" in your area ? How did you amass so much equipment in so little time ? And you wonder why so many here question you ??
 
I get a lot saws because people know I collect saws. The few guys that still know how to fall the big trees have retired. Some of the guys come and help the local tree service with the big ones. I help a few tree guys with consulting work on the bigger trees since very few of them have the training on the big trees. In my area there is a lot big trees in the forest and a few on private land. The few bigger trees on private land have to approved by state forestry for removal. Falling a 42" tree is more difficult then a 24" tree. Some of the 42" trees I had to drop this winter were really dense and they were a lot harder to drop safely. For me if a tree is going to be removed and there is any doubt it gets a rope or heavy equipment to assist it going over. The thing about tree falling a lot people have trouble with is reading the load weight, wedges can be helpful to correct the weight balance.
 
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