FarmerTec Huztl MS660 Updated Build Kit - Build Thread

[ammoaddict]

That's weird. My Stihl kit 1122-007-1053 has both that are .5mm . Now after looking at it closer this must me a gasket to fit 2 different saws and I also noticed there is 3 crank seals and the bolt pattern of the base gaskets are different so I answered my own question. So after seeing that there really is only the squish option for .021 kit gasket or .017 Stihl. What would you pick? .017 a little to close for comfort on a plain jane build?

I don't know how much compression difference .004 would make. I would lean towards .021. Maybe some one with more knowledge than me will chime in.

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[X 66 Stang347 X]

That's weird. My Stihl kit 1122-007-1053 has both that are .5mm . Now after looking at it closer this must me a gasket to fit 2 different saws and I also noticed there is 3 crank seals and the bolt pattern of the base gaskets are different so I answered my own question. So after seeing that there really is only the squish option for .021 kit gasket or .017 Stihl. What would you pick? .017 a little to close for comfort on a plain jane build?

The 064 and maybe the very early 066 had a narrower bolt pattern. I know the 064 used 5mm bolts also. Are the holes smaller in that one gasket?
I would run the .021. All my old kits were .023 and run strong.
Now if it was a 440/460 I would use the .017 squish.

 

[Schmalts]

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I would be very Happy with that squish, mine was .035 with no gasket. It will be interesting to see how much compression you get with that squish.
I like the idea of the guide pins. I don't know why I didn't think of that. I work on textile machinery at work and I have made several sets of guide pins in different sizes to make life easier for me. Great idea.

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.035 with no gasket... wow that sure is a wide range they are making these things at. Mine hit the chamber on the top, your is a mile away.
Probably one of best uses I ever did with the guide pins is when I was alone and trying to re-install a 3 point lift back on the rear diff of my tractor I had one shot to drop that thing down on the gasket without messing it up, the 3 point was over 100 pounds and those guide pins made it painless.. except for my back Great thing is they cost next to nothing to make.

 

[Schmalts]

The 064 and maybe the very early 066 had a narrower bolt pattern. I know the 064 used 5mm bolts also. Are the holes smaller in that one gasket?
I would run the .021. All my old kits were .023 and run strong.
Now if it was a 440/460 I would use the .017 squish.

Yep, the hole was slightly smaller in the one gasket. So the kit must be for both the 066 and the 660. Sounds like the crank seal on the 066 was different as well hence the 3rd seal

 

[Bedford T]

I went looking for the bolt size I am going to mention below and saw this. First time I noticed it, and we have been complaining and it turns out Stihl thinks its a good idea.




















to have some low cost case guides the manual suggests 5mx72m t27 screws. i have 3 and they come in handy

 

[Schmalts]

I went looking for the bolt size I am going to mention below and saw this. First time I noticed it, and we have been complaining and it turns out Stihl thinks its a good idea.













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to have some low cost case guides the manual suggests 5mx72m t27 screws. i have 3 and they come in handy



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Why not cut the heads of and taper them a little to turn them into pins?

 

[Bedford T]

Why not cut the heads of and taper them a little to turn them into pins?

Could Why not?

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[Bedford T]

Anybody using a Stihl lite bar. I want a 32" and I think the light bar would be a great choice. Can't find one in stock where I can touch it. Twice the cost.

I read they are Ridgid. I want a better balanced bar. The longer the bars the more the saw tips at rest. My 440 would really benefit although from a shorter bar. I think it looks cool too

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[X 66 Stang347 X]

I was keeping this kit as parts for the 3 saw I gave to different people, but I’m thinking I may build it.
I’ll list the oem parts I use and I want to try and keep up with its cost.
And the brake spring was correct, I was surprised. Are the bags still labeled in the current kits?
This Kits going to be called “Dusty” and I’m going to stamp it in the serial # slot.

 

[Bedford T]

Brake band is even right, I recall HL corrected the kits and that's why it's got the right spring, plus labeled the bags. Cool

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[Schmalts]

Anybody using a Stihl lite bar. I want a 32" and I think the light bar would be a great choice. Can't find one in stock where I can touch it. Twice the cost.

I read they are Ridgid. I want a better balanced bar. The longer the bars the more the saw tips at rest. My 440 would really benefit although from a shorter bar. I think it looks cool too

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I'd just be happy if the 2 bars I paid for with the Hutzl kit showed up. I ordered the 28 inch for the build and a 16 inch for my 023. I keep getting the same tracking number of the parts that did show up and asked how a 28 inch bar fits in a 21 inch box

 

[Schmalts]

Brake band is even right, I recall HL corrected the kits and that's why it's got the right spring, plus labeled the bags. Cool

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I take it my farmertec kit brake is high probability of being wrong?

 

[Bedford T]

I'd just be happy if the 2 bars I paid for with the Hutzl kit showed up. I ordered the 28 inch for the build and a 16 inch for my 023. I keep getting the same tracking number of the parts thatdid show up and asked how a 28 inch bar fits in a 21 inch box

A tracking can have multiple packages, I think. Write them. I have the 28 and I like it. The tree I am looking @ is a little bigger. I don't want to cut from both sides. It will come wrapped like a mummy

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[Bedford T]

I take it my farmertec kit brake is high probability of being wrong?

Look at the pin. If the pin is there you are good most likely

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[X 66 Stang347 X]

I checked the squish on Dusty and its .0235 with a farmer gasket.
I check it in 6 different spots on the piston and they were all within a thousand so I feel the base and squish are pretty flat.

 

[Bedford T]

I checked the squish on Dusty and its .0235 with a farmer gasket.
I check it in 6 different spots on the piston and they were all within a thousand so I feel the base and squish are pretty flat.

What brand cylinder are you using?

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[X 66 Stang347 X]

The kit cylinder that came with it from HL

 

[Bedford T]

Just setting the stage. That kit is about a year old. The reason that matters is those of us that track them that was produced before we started having larger problems and may have gone though some type quailty control which we know does not exist when ordering from huztl.

That cylinder sounds like a runner. Cool.

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[xd40sw]

Just setting the stage. That kit is about a year old. The reason that matters is those of us that track them that was produced before we started having larger problems and may have gone though some type quailty control which we know does not exist when ordering from huztl.

That cylinder sounds like a runner. Cool.

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When you say larger problems what exactly are you referring to? I recently ordered one of these kits. Obviously I don’t expect it to be OEM quality, I’m mainly after the experience of building from the ground up.


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[Bedford T]

When you say larger problems what exactly are you referring to? I recently ordered one of these kits. Obviously I don’t expect it to be OEM quality, I’m mainly after the experience of building from the ground up.


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welcome, Great you will learn a lot. Have you been reading? The kits suffer from a lack of quality control. Generally it has changed over time from one thing to the next. You just make a decision on how to over come what you run up on

That comment was referencing his cylinder that had good geometry to the average recent one that do not. When we started out you had to sand the roughness away and deal with large squish, which is ok. To give you a overall sense.

If you measure yours and report it we will have more up to date info. If you don't have the tools don't sweat it

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