MDavlee, I've been there, and I agree nice place, and some big tree's. It is a worthwhile experience for sure, and life altering. You get back in my neck of the wood's look me up. Turtle I sent you a REP, that's twice this week you helpe'd me, first on the carb kit question, and second you found the ranch I was talikng of, and thank's. Because I trie'd before, and had no luck. If they don't do tour's, or let many people in I am going to try, and contact them, and sneak a few of us in. Hell I'll do an interview, for the redwood thread:msp_biggrin: I will need a camera man, and a traveling band:rockn: Neil good stuff my friend, it is far away for you no doubt, that's cool on the buisness, and young family you are a lucky man.