hard hats

[superjunior]

I'll admit I don't wear a hard hat as often as I should. One of the biggest reasons is it just falls off my head constantly. So I've been looking at the petzl vertex vent 2 or the petzl veleo. The veleo is supposed to be a couple oz's lighter and has larger vents. I like the idea of being able to close the vents which the vertex 2 offers and the veleo does not. Anyone have any experience with both? Opinions? Gonna pull the trigger soon and I'm torn between the two.

Also my guys are having the same problem with the hats falling off, no straps. I have a bunch of hard hats from stihl, husky, rayco.. I think they're all the same from peltor maybe? They're good hard hats but they just need chin straps. Looking at the mid west catalog here I see Rockman offers a chin strap for their hard hats. Are these universal? I'd hate to buy all new hard hats just cause they don't have chin straps.

 

[2treeornot2tree]

I havent really ever had a problem with my hard hat falling off my head. I got the Omega II Hi-Vis Orange Full Brim Hat with Ratchet Suspension from baileys. If you tighten the ratchet to a snug fit, it shouldn't fall off your head. I have even climbed with mine on and had no problems. As far as a climbing helmet, I have a older Petzel Helmet I bought 10 years ago.

 

[superjunior]

I havent really ever had a problem with my hard hat falling off my head. I got the Omega II Hi-Vis Orange Full Brim Hat with Ratchet Suspension from baileys. If you tighten the ratchet to a snug fit, it shouldn't fall off your head. I have even climbed with mine on and had no problems. As far as a climbing helmet, I have a older Petzel Helmet I bought 10 years ago.

the hats I have are the same, has a ratcheting tightener in the back that seams to loosen up on its own. gonna get a new climbing hard hat regardless, I'd just hate to have to replace all the other hard hats if I can just get chin straps for them.

 

[lone wolf]

The Petzel is nice not to heavy.

 

[2treeornot2tree]

i think you can get replacement rachets for the hardhats. They are only $12 each. Maybe santa will bring you some.

 

[superjunior]

i think you can get replacement rachets for the hardhats. They are only $12 each. Maybe santa will bring you some.

not a bad idea, I'm just thinking that chin straps will not give my guys ANY excuse not to have them on. of course they'll probably b##ch that the chinstraps are uncomfortable lol..

 

[superjunior]

The Petzel is nice not to heavy.

which one?

 

[ATH]

First, there are chin straps for regular hard hats. Many, but not all have the little holes for thestrap on the sides. Here is a wildland fire fighter chin strap. Standard issue on the fire line. Everybody has one looped over the front of their hardhat. It is required if you are on a helicopter - otherwise, I can't think of a time when I have ever seen somebody wearing theirs. Less comprotable than the straps on climbing hats.

This looks like it may be a better option for upgrading a standard hardhat.

As for climbing hats: I have a Vertex vent, and like it just fine. I haven't worn a veleo so no comparison to offer. The climbing hats do look a little dorky for ground guys...but I think that is just because it is not the 'normal' hardhat. I'd also argue that it looks far less dorky than a dented head.

 

[TimberJack_7]

I have been wearing the Petzl Vertex Best for the last few years and love that helmet. Before I got this helmet, I had the same problems you described when I wore my Husqvarna "arborist helmet" with the shortened brim. I have not had a single problem at all with the Petzl.

 

[TimberJack_7]

Tree Climbing Helmets for Professional Arborists

 

[superjunior]

I have been wearing the Petzl Vertex Best for the last few years and love that helmet. Before I got this helmet, I had the same problems you described when I wore my Husqvarna "arborist helmet" with the shortened brim. I have not had a single problem at all with the Petzl.

cool, think I'm leaning towards that one cause of the adjustable vents.

 

[Huskytree]

Petzl Vertex

I have been using the Vertex and really like it. I sweat like a pig in a BBQ pit and find the venting very good. When it is cold out I close them halfway and am good to go. Its the only helmet I have run so can't compare it to others.

 

[rbtree]

cool, think I'm leaning towards that one cause of the adjustable vents.

That's the Vent, not the Best..... I have one of each.....and a Pacific--kevlar --heavier, but longer lasting and better side support due to the brim.

 

[superjunior]

That's the Vent, not the Best..... I have one of each.....and a Pacific--kevlar --heavier, but longer lasting and better side support due to the brim.

which is your favorite?

 

[Grouchy old man]

I have a bunch of hard hats from stihl, husky, rayco.. I think they're all the same from peltor maybe? They're good hard hats but they just need chin straps.

I find that with those type hard hats the chin strap will interfere with the ear muff hearing protectors because of the strap attachment point location.

The climbing hats do look a little dorky for ground guys...

Personally I can't stand the way they look on anybody. What is it about Euro gear styling and making men look like space rangers?

 

[Tdaz250]

Heres what i've got. Comfy all day and its not too hot.

Kevlar Helmet by Pacific (3 colors) : SherrillTree Tree Care Equipment

 

[superjunior]

I find that with those type hard hats the chin strap will interfere with the ear muff hearing protectors because of the strap attachment point location.



Personally I can't stand the way they look on anybody. What is it about Euro gear styling and making men look like space rangers?

the guys have already torn the muffs and masks off em anyway, its all I can do just to keep something on their head..

is there a climbing helmet out there that doesn't make one look like a space dork?

 

[tree md]

LOL, my climbing helmet makes me look like a complete dork. It's a Black Diamond half dome. I could give a rats azz about how it makes me look. I would rather impress my clientele with performance than stylish garb. It's effective, comfortable and didn't break the piggy bank. I think I paid $55 for it 5 or so years back.

I'm trying to figure out what kind of drugs these helmet designers are on. Have you seen the whacked out bike helmets?

 

[rymancm]

I have used a Petzl Vertex Vent for years, and a Petzl Ecrin Roc before that. The Vertex Vent is kind of clunky, moves around on my head even when tightened down, and the sweatband sucks (non-absorbant and literally channels the sweat into your eyes). The newer ones may be better. I recently got a Kask which, although not perfect, is better. It's lighter, more comfortable (feels more like a good bike helmet, not like a hardhat) and has a real sweatband (yeah, it gets manky but at least it does its job). The robocop faceshield is ridiculous, however, and the earmuff attachment clips are a joke. Petzl's built in slots are way simpler and way more secure. Despite its flaws, I'd still take the Kask over the Petzl. I think they are going the right direction making their helmets more fitted like bike helmets while Petzl seems stuck on the same high-riding hard hat suspension design that has been around forever and that no one has ever liked. I haven't seen the newest generation of any of these helmets in person so I may be a bit off in my comments, but I would at least check out Kask before buying a Petzl.

 

[superjunior]

Heres what i've got. Comfy all day and its not too hot.

Kevlar Helmet by Pacific (3 colors) : SherrillTree Tree Care Equipment

that looks like a real nice hh for the ground, wonder if it would a bit bulky in the tree?