Homelite Chainsaws

[ChainLightning]

I was cutting with one this morning. They are both Super XL Automatic oilers.

I always get them all mixed up. Mite was well just start calling them all XLs

 

[Eccentric]

Sorry. This is one of my "hot buttons"....

I always get them all mixed up. Mite was well just start calling them all XLs

No!!!!!!!!

That would just add to the confusion. Neither of those saws are "XL's". An "XL" is one of the XL2/Super2 unit-engine saws such as what the fellows above have recently posted pics of.

The XL-12/SXL-AO saws (of which, a FEW were called "XL-Automatic") share nothing at all with that other saw series except for bits of the names, and a duckbill valve (used in the oil tank on XL's, and in the fuel caps on later SXL/XL-12 saws). These were the first Homelites with "XL" in their model names.

The XL700/800/900 series saws (such as an SXL-925 or an XL850) share bar mount patterns, and a few parts with the SXL/XL-12 saws. Otherwise, they're completely different.

The XL76-XL130 saws are more of an enlarged Super E-Z than an "XL". They share bar mount patterns with the E-Z/Super E-Z saws.

The XL-1/XL-Mini (and the VI variants) are E-Z/Super E-Z saws sold outside the US, where the whole "E-Z" (as in it's Easy to use) thing looses its meaning. It's like the Chevy Nova's sold in spanish speaking countries. That's where the "Chevy II" thing came from. "No Va" could be taken to mean "it doesn't go" in spanish. Not what you want to put on your car.

While I'm ranting.........................there's Homelite's re-use of "EZ". The EZ and EZ6 (no hyphen between "E" and "Z") saws were 5.01ci upright jug machines sold in the late '50s. The 7-19, 600D, and Zip saws are children of the EZ's. The E-Z and Super E-Z (WITH hypen between the "E" and "Z") are 34-41cc little wonders (introduced in the late '60s, and produced through the '80s) that share nothing with the monsters of the late '50s.
:angrysoapbox:

 

[Eccentric]

If you must call all the saws in this series (SXL-AO/XL-12/XL-Automatic/etc) one name...............call 'em XL-12's or SXL's.

 

[HeRoze]

my brother in law picked this up for me... it's a runner, I just have to go get it.

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any idea of the year? BIL wants to know, and I don't have the background in the homies to make a guess.

 

[homelitejim]

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any idea of the year? BIL wants to know, and I don't have the background in the homies to make a guess.

late 70's or so.

 

[a. palmer jr.]

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Yep, not much difference between the metal and the plastic ones, they all run about the same, pretty decent little limbing saws and very reliable, in my opinion.

 

[wendell]

No!!!!!!!!

That would just add to the confusion. Neither of those saws are "XL's". An "XL" is one of the XL2/Super2 unit-engine saws such as what the fellows above have recently posted pics of.

The XL-12/SXL-AO saws (of which, a FEW were called "XL-Automatic") share nothing at all with that other saw series except for bits of the names, and a duckbill valve (used in the oil tank on XL's, and in the fuel caps on later SXL/XL-12 saws). These were the first Homelites with "XL" in their model names.

The XL700/800/900 series saws (such as an SXL-925 or an XL850) share bar mount patterns, and a few parts with the SXL/XL-12 saws. Otherwise, they're completely different.

The XL76-XL130 saws are more of an enlarged Super E-Z than an "XL". They share bar mount patterns with the E-Z/Super E-Z saws.

The XL-1/XL-Mini (and the VI variants) are E-Z/Super E-Z saws sold outside the US, where the whole "E-Z" (as in it's Easy to use) thing looses its meaning. It's like the Chevy Nova's sold in spanish speaking countries. That's where the "Chevy II" thing came from. "No Va" could be taken to mean "it doesn't go" in spanish. Not what you want to put on your car.

While I'm ranting.........................there's Homelite's re-use of "EZ". The EZ and EZ6 (no hyphen between "E" and "Z") saws were 5.01ci upright jug machines sold in the late '50s. The 7-19, 600D, and Zip saws are children of the EZ's. The E-Z and Super E-Z (WITH hypen between the "E" and "Z") are 34-41cc little wonders that share nothing with the monsters of the late '60s.
:angrysoapbox:

You ever try decaf? :msp_biggrin:

 

[wendell]

Can anybody tell me anything about the 5-20-LA besides what is on Acres site? I have a chance to pick one up but it looks pretty rough and not sure if it is worth the effort.

I seem to have become a 1950's Homelite magnet. :msp_rolleyes:

Aaron, since you've finally arrived, how 'bout an answer?

 

[Eccentric]

You ever try decaf? :msp_biggrin:

Yep. Found that decaf makes me a real "mr grumpus". Without enough caffeine, I don't have the sunny disposition that you're used to seeing here....

 

[Eccentric]

Can anybody tell me anything about the 5-20-LA besides what is on Acres site? I have a chance to pick one up but it looks pretty rough and not sure if it is worth the effort.

I seem to have become a 1950's Homelite magnet. :msp_rolleyes:

Aaron, since you've finally arrived, how 'bout an answer?

You know your Zips are '60s Homelites......not '50s right? The '50s versions would be an EZ or EZ6.


As for the 5-20L........I don't have any direct experience with 'em. I do know that you're much better off with that saw than a 5-20 (no L) that'd have a Tillotson HP (rather than the HL that a 5-20L would have). Also, it's gear drive (rather than belt drive, like the older Homelites) so you won't have to mess with finding a belt.

It's basically a gear drive version of an EZ. It was followed by the 6-22, which is the same thing, but with a pyramid reed rather than the single flat reed setup. That makes a 6-22 the gear drive version of an EZ6.

Used the same ball-ratchet starter setup as the EZ/EZ6/7-19 and a few other saws of the period. They're a bit cantankerous, but not usually too much trouble. The reason these saws are usually missing the 'ashtray' starter cover is that guys had to pull it off to get to the ratchet. Most left it off after the first few forrays into the starter.........and used it for it's "real" purpose (according to RandyMac).

Other than the starter, it'd be as easy to work on as your Zips. Same Tillotson HL carb. Same AF element. Same bar mount pattern (Oregon FO14, Acres #16). Rings are easy to find. Gaskets are easy to find. A fun, old, loud, SLOW saw to tinker with.

 

[homelitejim]

unless it was like my 5-20 that had a obsolete carb(forget the letters but ended with a 15) and a kit was non existent, even a member here tried to make one but it didn't work properly, in my frustration I sold it but not before I took a pic or two to remind me to steer clear.

 

[wendell]

You know your Zips are '60s Homelites......not '50s right? The '50s versions would be an EZ or EZ6.


As for the 5-20L........I don't have any direct experience with 'em. I do know that you're much better off with that saw than a 5-20 (no L) that'd have a Tillotson HP (rather than the HL that a 5-20L would have). Also, it's gear drive (rather than belt drive, like the older Homelites) so you won't have to mess with finding a belt.

It's basically a gear drive version of an EZ. It was followed by the 6-22, which is the same thing, but with a pyramid reed rather than the single flat reed setup. That makes a 6-22 the gear drive version of an EZ6.

Used the same ball-ratchet starter setup as the EZ/EZ6/7-19 and a few other saws of the period. They're a bit cantankerous, but not usually too much trouble. The reason these saws are usually missing the 'ashtray' starter cover is that guys had to pull it off to get to the ratchet. Most left it off after the first few forrays into the starter.........and used it for it's "real" purpose (according to RandyMac).

Other than the starter, it'd be as easy to work on as your Zips. Same Tillotson HL carb. Same AF element. Same bar mount pattern (Oregon FO14, Acres #16). Rings are easy to find. Gaskets are easy to find. A fun, old, loud, SLOW saw to tinker with.

Thanks and sorry I wasn't more specific on my magnetism. :msp_tongue:

 

[Eccentric]

Jim my guess is that you had a 5-20, instead of a 5-20L. You would have had the obsolete Tillotson HP (or maybe a Brown). The 5-20L is supposed to have the common Tillotson HL. Uses the standard RK-88HL kits....

 

[Eccentric]

Thanks and sorry I wasn't more specific on my magnetism. :msp_tongue:

First you chose the 'wrong' Stumpy raffle saw......................and now this???:hmm3grin2orange:

 

[ChainLightning]

No!!!!!!!!

That would just add to the confusion. Neither of those saws are "XL's". An "XL" is one of the XL2/Super2 unit-engine saws such as what the fellows above have recently posted pics of.

The XL-12/SXL-AO saws (of which, a FEW were called "XL-Automatic") share nothing at all with that other saw series except for bits of the names, and a duckbill valve (used in the oil tank on XL's, and in the fuel caps on later SXL/XL-12 saws). These were the first Homelites with "XL" in their model names.

The XL700/800/900 series saws (such as an SXL-925 or an XL850) share bar mount patterns, and a few parts with the SXL/XL-12 saws. Otherwise, they're completely different.

The XL76-XL130 saws are more of an enlarged Super E-Z than an "XL". They share bar mount patterns with the E-Z/Super E-Z saws.

The XL-1/XL-Mini (and the VI variants) are E-Z/Super E-Z saws sold outside the US, where the whole "E-Z" (as in it's Easy to use) thing looses its meaning. It's like the Chevy Nova's sold in spanish speaking countries. That's where the "Chevy II" thing came from. "No Va" could be taken to mean "it doesn't go" in spanish. Not what you want to put on your car.

While I'm ranting.........................there's Homelite's re-use of "EZ". The EZ and EZ6 (no hyphen between "E" and "Z") saws were 5.01ci upright jug machines sold in the late '50s. The 7-19, 600D, and Zip saws are children of the EZ's. The E-Z and Super E-Z (WITH hypen between the "E" and "Z") are 34-41cc little wonders (introduced in the late '60s, and produced through the '80s) that share nothing with the monsters of the late '50s.
:angrysoapbox:

Well I guess if I need to know something about ANYTHING to do with Homelite, then I know who to ask haha. When I read that I thought you were going to jump out of the screen and beat me over the head with a 36" bar.

 

[8433jeff]

Well I guess if I need to know something about ANYTHING to do with Homelite, then I know who to ask haha. When I read that I thought you were going to jump out of the screen and beat me over the head with a 36" bar.

If you pay attention in life, you can learn a few things. Aaron has paid attention, as I hope you will here also. No beatings, least not with a 36" bar, they are hard to come by at times.

 

[ChainLightning]

If you pay attention in life, you can learn a few things. Aaron has paid attention, as I hope you will here also. No beatings, least not with a 36" bar, they are hard to come by at times.

I do know quite a bit about Homelites, I know how most of their models are built inside and out and how to fix em.( Rebuilt a 330, Super EZ Auto, Super 2, XL, and a XL-12 and probably a few I can't think of off the top of my head) I just get the names mixed up a lot. I'm just waiting to come across a Homelite Super Mega Ultra XL 3 Mini Automatic Micro 544 Dual Cylinder. :jester:

 

[8433jeff]

I do know quite a bit about Homelites, I know how most of their models are built inside and out and how to fix em.( Rebuilt a 330, Super EZ Auto, Super 2, XL, and a XL-12 and probably a few I can't think of off the top of my head) I just get the names mixed up a lot. I'm just waiting to come across a Homelite Super Mega Ultra XL 3 Mini Automatic Micro 544 Dual Cylinder. :jester:

Well, now you look like you belong. Aaron's going to tell you they never made one of those, so I don't have to.:msp_thumbup:

 

[a. palmer jr.]

You know your Zips are '60s Homelites......not '50s right? The '50s versions would be an EZ or EZ6.


As for the 5-20L........I don't have any direct experience with 'em. I do know that you're much better off with that saw than a 5-20 (no L) that'd have a Tillotson HP (rather than the HL that a 5-20L would have). Also, it's gear drive (rather than belt drive, like the older Homelites) so you won't have to mess with finding a belt.

It's basically a gear drive version of an EZ. It was followed by the 6-22, which is the same thing, but with a pyramid reed rather than the single flat reed setup. That makes a 6-22 the gear drive version of an EZ6.

Used the same ball-ratchet starter setup as the EZ/EZ6/7-19 and a few other saws of the period. They're a bit cantankerous, but not usually too much trouble. The reason these saws are usually missing the 'ashtray' starter cover is that guys had to pull it off to get to the ratchet. Most left it off after the first few forrays into the starter.........and used it for it's "real" purpose (according to RandyMac).

Other than the starter, it'd be as easy to work on as your Zips. Same Tillotson HL carb. Same AF element. Same bar mount pattern (Oregon FO14, Acres #16). Rings are easy to find. Gaskets are easy to find. A fun, old, loud, SLOW saw to tinker with.

I think before I tried cutting down a tree with a Zip, I might try to just knock the tree over with my truck!

 

[Eccentric]

Well I guess if I need to know something about ANYTHING to do with Homelite, then I know who to ask haha. When I read that I thought you were going to jump out of the screen and beat me over the head with a 36" bar.

Don't tempt me....:cool2:

Now redeem yourself by telling me what model Homelite this 36" hardnose bar is on. If you say "XL".......then that 36" hardnose is coming through the screen to teach you a lesson....