how would i go about felling a 100 foot eucalyptus with a 41cc saw with a 16 bar?

[voxac30dude]

i really need some advice on how to do it. im running a chisel set up not semi and use a fullsized 16 bar not a lo pro and it is a .325 set up. the saw is a husqvarna 435. any help would do. this is a big job that i have the man power for but not saw power. i wish i had a stihl 460 mag for this job.

 

[Tree Pig]

any Home Depots around you can rent a 64 cc Makita/Dolmar for like $40 a day.

 

[scotvl]

rent/borrow the proper saw for the job

 

[BlackenedTimber]

I"m going to assume that the 100' Euc is larger in diameter than 16" so I would suggest getting a larger saw with a bar long enough to allow you to make the face and backcut without having to cut from either side. Yes, you can accomplish felling the tree with a 16" bar, but felling a 100' tree with a 16" bar can be tricky for someone who hasn't done it before.

As Stihl-O has mentioned, I would look into renting a larger saw for the day.

 

[Rftreeman]

you've failed to mention the diameter of this 100' tree, that is more of a concern than height....

 

[GlennG]

If you dont know how to fell it hire a pro. An internet website isnt going to make you competent. Safety trumps economy 100% of the the time. Dot be cheap hire a "Tree cutting service"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLjbO1tyElE

 

[Garden Of Eden]

OMG James!! I wish I could show this to tons of people...Thanks GlennG!!

Jeff

 

[voxac30dude]

I"m going to assume that the 100' Euc is larger in diameter than 16" so I would suggest getting a larger saw with a bar long enough to allow you to make the face and backcut without having to cut from either side. Yes, you can accomplish felling the tree with a 16" bar, but felling a 100' tree with a 16" bar can be tricky for someone who hasn't done it before.

As Stihl-O has mentioned, I would look into renting a larger saw for the day.

we are verry limited to what is for rent at our home depots in hawaii. that why im asking these questions. we have limited access to big saws around here. so at least giving me some advice on cutting this tree would help.

 

[deevo]

we are verry limited to what is for rent at our home depots in hawaii. that why im asking these questions. we have limited access to big saws around here. so at least giving me some advice on cutting this tree would help.

Not a slam against you........but your best bet would be to invest in a bigger saw and use this job to pay for it, your going to need it sooner or later.:greenchainsaw:

 

[Timbeaux]

Buy the saw!

Deevo's right. Lot's of us cut bigger timber than the saws we have but if you don't know how to safely do it (not meant as an insult) no ones going to tell you as we would feel responsible if you got yourself or someone else hurt or killed. I will tell you that, imo, if the tree's dead or hollow ( i don't think you mentioned that) there is no acceptable way to drop that spar with too small a tool. Best of luck and Happy Holidays.:agree2:

 

[voxac30dude]

the tree is dead. it has been dead for a long time. so how big of a saw should i get. 60-80cc? how big should the bar be? are there any really powerful saws under $700. thanks for the help. im totally a noob, please forgive me.

 

[NCTREE]

the tree is dead. it has been dead for a long time. so how big of a saw should i get. 60-80cc? how big should the bar be? are there any really powerful saws under $700. thanks for the help. im totally a noob, please forgive me.

It's been dead for a long time???? RED FLAG! Don't be a hero, someones liable to get killed.

 

[BlackenedTimber]

WHAT IS THE DIAMETER OF THE SPAR???

How could we possibly suggest a saw/bar combo for the job without knowing what we are working with?!?!

if it's a 20" DBH, get a 24" bar on a 60cc saw. If it's a 72" DBH, get a 7-ft bar on a 100+cc saw...

My dad always told me: "if you can't find the time to do it right, when are you going to find the time to do it over?" Same theory applies here, except that you could get killed or trash some property in the process.

I'm not trying to be an a-hole, but more info is required to make appropriate recommendations, and all of this is mute if you don't know the proper techniques to fell a tree of this size.

Please tell me you have a nice large, open drop zone.

 

[madmax]

the tree is dead. it has been dead for a long time. so how big of a saw should i get. 60-80cc? how big should the bar be? are there any really powerful saws under $700. thanks for the help. im totally a noob, please forgive me.

I have to agree with NCTREE, Hire a Pro. The dead tree's are the deadliest of all!

 

[TimberMcPherson]

the tree is dead. it has been dead for a long time. so how big of a saw should i get. 60-80cc? how big should the bar be? are there any really powerful saws under $700. thanks for the help. im totally a noob, please forgive me.

Screw that, get in an expert to drop it for you. This tree could cost you EVERYTHING.

Get the big saw

get the big bar

get the fast cutting chain

Get killed before it even looks used.

 

[NCTREE]

It would help if you could get some pics, then we could give you some better advice. No one here wants to read about you in the injuries and fatalities section.

I would definatly put a rope in the top to help pull the tree over, the thing is you have to get the rope in the tree without climbing it. A throw line will do the trick for you.

 

[Tree Dr.]

Hire a pro arborist or timber faller to put the tree down and make the big cuts. Likely cheaper than buying a saw esp. for just one tree. Use your smaller saw and manpower to clean up. Falling a large dead tree with a big new saw and limited experience in a residential area is NOT the way.

 

[ROOTSXROCKS]

If your still thinking of doing this read this first
2008 Fireline Fatality Report http://www.nps.gov/fire/download/fir_wil_investigation_DutchCreek_report.pdf

had bar lengths of 28” and 32”; the diameter of Tree 1 at the point the cut was made was 36.7”. Regardless of which saw was used, the sawyer would have had to cut from both sides of the stump in order to complete the undercut. During this process, the sawyer experienced difficulty in obtaining a single plane, or hinge, across the diameter of the stump. This hinge is critical to the process that directs the tree into the undercut and the intended lay.
Closer inspection revealed that the sloping section of the undercut was not cleaned sufficiently as to provide a single plane across the diameter of the stump. The stump exhibits two distinct horizontal (gunning) cuts and two sloping cuts. Multiple Dutchmen that would have altered the holding wood were also present.

Noob with a 16" saw 100 foot dead tree, that has been dead for a "long time"
Ever though about were them top pieces will land if that tree shatters on the way down?

Actually the ridiculousness of this situation has my Troll/flamer alert beeping.
:notrolls2:

 

[voxac30dude]

the tree measured 60 inches and 7/10ths diameter. the tree needs to be felled not cut from the top down in sections. there is a huge open space for it to fall and no houses for it to reach.

 

[BlackenedTimber]

My reccommendation:

Stihl MS880 w/ Wrap Handle, running .404 pitch .063 gauge Stihl RC Full Chisel on a 5 foot bar, a half dozen wedges with a hatchet or small axe, and YEARS OF EXPERIENCE.

With as much inviction as simple text can convey: IF YOU CAN NOT DO IT, DO NOT DO IT.

:deadhorse: