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MasterBlaster

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Err... I mean... I did my first $7000 TD. Geez, I didn't realize one tree could cost so much, but we were the lowest bid. Sure, it was a bit of a pain, and we did need an 80 ton crane, but I think I would have bid a little lower. No matter, it just shows you what you can get when yur not afraid to ask for what your worth.

Of course, this was a federal job, so no jacklegs/low bidders were involved. When its like that, you can get aggressive when you bid - usually.

My first time with a 80 ton. AWESOME!!!
 
Congrats' man that is awesome!!!!!


You must have felt pretty good after that one. That's an acomplishment, even without pics.


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Originally posted by MasterBlaster
it just shows you what you can get when yur not afraid to ask for what your worth.
Say it loud, say it proud. If you can walk the walk, you should talk the talk. A big lump can be dizzying, but in context of weather- and training- and other days off and hidden overhead, you know you weren't overpaid...just enough:cool:

Especially since the other guys were higher. My first federal contract I was so low-25k-- the 2 other bidders' chins about hit the floor. I bailed myself out by adding on for extra removals I saw that needed to happen. Every sprouted acorn was an oak removal. (The final bill came out amazingly close to the second-lowest-40k-how'd that happen?) Whew! Close call.. :eek:
 
My biggest single tree was a willow in a back yard, 4500 for the tree 500 for the stump.

Bidding a 3400/500 job right now,a dn a neighbor has a box elder with a stem over an adjacent house we should be able to do for 1500 if the first one closes.
That would make a nice 2 days.

The big one would be nice for a crane, but transmission is right there, from the other side would be over the house, 145 ft from pivot, max 3200# on the jib, $190/hr so we would be $285 into it with se tup and round trip without any work...6hours of work would be $1425 plus road closuer permits....

Gotta do it the old fashioned way:D Hire sokme one better then me;)
 
5k

Sold my first 5k tree this year.... Monster beech had let go 2 major leads in the past year+... Very hard to tell whether the remaing wood was good and I lobbied for pruning/cabling and saving the tree...
That is one of the reasons I put such a pricey tag on the job... trying to use green leverage to influence the customers decision..
The customer just wanted the tree down.... no talking about it...
After figuring all the cost of removal from my end... crane, log hauling, labor, wear and tear etc... I decided to offer it to another contractor.... He runs over 50 men and has lots of big equipment... so he's was right for the job (so I thought). And he agreed to do it for 2.5k.... I was busy with other work... so why not keep my ball rolling, hand off this job, and make a few bucks.. (I also had to pay 500 for access to the tree through the neighboring gas staion's parking lot...)
First job I ever subbed... and didn't feel too comfortable taking a passive position.. I like the thrill of battle and really wanted to forego the crane, and speedline the whole top out into the wide open parking area, using a truck as an anchor... I guess intuitively that's what I wanted to do, but couldn't justify it intellectually...
Doesn't the sub's crew trash the station's brick retaining wall in 2 places.... I held the money... the sub just walked away... refusing to get his insurance co involved and I got a call yesterday threatining a law suit... that would be a first in 22 years in the business.
That sweet little deal turned into a nightmare pretty quick huh?
I've got a mason going to look at the wall and hopefully can salvage something good here... Station owner refuses to go through his insurance.. He wrote a letter to the homeowner suggesting she pursue contractor's insurance co... The wall had already been damaged in one area by a large lead that fell last year... the sub put a new hole in the wall and hit a weak side of the existing hole and loosenned a big adjascent section.. And the capping stones may not be able to be matched...
Any suggestions???
 
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Originally posted by murphy4trees

That is one of the reasons I put such a pricey tag on the job... trying to use green leverage to influence the customers decision..
The customer just wanted the tree down.... no talking about it...
Waydago, Murph! Ethics in Action--and the results were good to, eh?:D
Customers respect ethics and will often forego getting other bids when they respect your approach that much. It puts a true "tree professional" shine on when you advocate for the tree.:cool:

Re wall lawsuit, document prior condition as much as you can--interview kids who walked by it, etc. Sub will no doubt exaggerate previous defects, your job to affirm truc condition before they neglectfully caused damage.
 
Here's a pic of the wall... damage in the foreground was done by sub... The far hole was caused by storm damage, but sub knoecked loose large section of bricks to the left of that hole.. Stump is barely visible behind "weeds", to left of lampost.
 
Originally posted by murphy4trees
[B The far hole was caused by storm damage, but sub knoecked loose large section of bricks to the left of that hole.. [/B]
[/B]Murph, here's a forensic view of that wall:( FWIW:
Far hole bad, but what's worse is the long crack oozing black 4 courses below the far hole. Black ooze indicates it preexisted sub's impact--did it? If sub has half a brain he will point to crack and say his damage was minor in comparison, and he might be right.

IMO masons should estimate repair of A. Near hole by sub alone, and B. Total repair of entire wall including preexisting damage. A could be deducted from your bill (did you pay sub already? Ouch! It don't feel good when those bills get stuck where the sun don't shine). B. minus A is clearly the owner''s problem; why didn't they get wall fixed after storm, while insurance spigot was on? Did they just pocket the cash, and wait for some vulnerable contrator (you) to come along and pay for it later? If not, can they refile that claim?

Sub's damage doesn't look like worth filing for even if they had ins, depending on deductible. Sub was negligent here but wall may have had bigger problems before they came on scene.
 
Originally posted by murphy4trees
[B The far hole was caused by storm damage, but sub knoecked loose large section of bricks to the left of that hole.. [/B]
[/B]Murph, here's a forensic view of that wall:( FWIW:
Far hole bad, but what's worse is the long crack oozing black 4 courses below the far hole. Black ooze indicates it preexisted sub's impact--did it? If sub has half a brain he will point to crack and say his damage was minor in comparison, and he might be right.

IMO masons should estimate repair of A. Near hole by sub alone, and B. Total repair of entire wall including preexisting damage. A could be deducted from your bill (did you pay sub already? Ouch! It don't feel good when those bills get stuck where the sun don't shine). B. minus A is clearly the owner''s problem; why didn't they get wall fixed after storm, while insurance spigot was on? Did they just pocket the cash, and wait for some vulnerable contrator (you) to come along and pay for it later? If not, can they refile that claim?

Sub's damage doesn't look like worth filing for even if they had ins, depending on deductible. Sub was negligent here but wall may have had bigger problems before they came on scene.

The only claim on my policy was a cracked neighbor's driveway panel 13 yrs ago. Just clipped a small section-3' crack, and panel was still flat.
Neighbor had problems w driveway before, not content w their own ins co's repairs. Along comes doofus tree guy; my ins co did not contest their claim that my little crack ruined thier whole driveway and they paid to rebuild it. Nailed me for higher premiums for years. I was helpless. Beware getting screwed by ins claims. :angry:
 
Here's a couple ' three pics!

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Those gardens of marble allways put a lump in my throat. The first big one I saw was outside of Dragonillon, France. We came around a bend in our convoy and there were acres and acres of these boys who never saw home again.

Glad you got some of yout tax dollars back!
 
I did a 2k tree removel once next to a retaining wall, wall had pre existing crack, pointed it out to owner before starting work as not to be blamed for it. The sub should have gone over that wall first pointed out any damage to owner first before starting work, and even taken pictures. But he definately is not a proffessional at least not for just walking away, people hear about those things, and he will loose buisness. Not much of a man if he cant stand behind his work. Everyone has little accidents or makes mistakes but it takes a man to make it right. You might have had to pay because sub bailed but owner, and other people will remember the fact that you made it right.
 
You da MAN Butch!!! I got a huge maple TD next week, I will have to be sure to get pics for ya.

Kenn
 
I have never seen, a bucket mounted on a crane like that.....where do you get one of those bucket jibs
 

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