land clearing with husqvarna 365sp & 440xtorq

[dancan]

And pubs on a Saturday morning:

What are you trying to say ?

 

[Stihlman441]

In my part of Ozz the petrol is about $1.40 / ltr
441CMtronic is $1749 :frown:

 

[logger 12345]

you lads are lucky in america with the cheap fuel prices,no wonder you can drive such large displacment veichles such as all
those lovely v8's :msp_thumbup:

if we had those here i would need a bank manager sitting in the passenger seat all the time with me :msp_tongue:


fuel prices are just sick here and not to get any better any time soon



ohh yeah,i just spent 150 points (credits) on my little title over my avatar,i decided to write it here in this post so when
i look back on the thread i will remember spending my first few credits here .

 

[johncinco]

Very interesting thread, thanks for taking the time to post about your adventures. Makes a guy appreciate what he has at hand. Some of the differences are eye and mind opening. I did a lil wikipedia and google searching going through your pages to see just what I was looking at.

If the oregon chainsaw pants are too hot, then get a set of chaps. Looking at you cutting in sweatpants makes me twitch. Like watching a kid fall on concrete, you know its going to hurt eventually.

Working in that mud must be tough. You say you are selling wood all the time, but I would have to think about doing the cutting now, and waiting til it dries up, whatever that means there, and then trucking out all the wood at once.

Do you mix your gas and oil in advance, or always pour in the gas and then pour in the oil into the tank? You won't get accurate measurements and your paper cup is going to wear out or collect dirt eventually.

Just FYI for us guys here, the land mass of Ireland is 31,520 square miles, or about the size of South Carolina. Michigan is 3 times as large as the whole country of Ireland, and we have the same population. The population density is 190 people per square mile, or what we would call the suburbs. Roughly 50% of the population live in the cities. Total population is 6.1 million. It is considered the most de-forested country in Europe. For comparison, the US population is 313 million, and 82% of the population live in the cities.

What we consider brush and leave out in the woods or burn as scraps, you are hauling in and selling as firewood. Just about anything under 4" diameter gets left behind by most wood cutters. Its a big difference, but I can see why you would be hauling it in, if people need it to burn and there is nothing else, you have to put it to use.

I am curious, do you have public lands there? We have vast amounts, millions of acres of lands set aside and open to the public. You can camp or explore at leisure, and cut wood on many of the lands with a simple permit. I am guessing that most everything there is private property, and you would have to be fairly wealthy to own land.

Thanks again for posting up and good luck with your cutting. Its been a pleasure seeing another part of the world, through a common interest of a chainsaw.

 

[logger 12345]

hello johncinco,

very intresting questions and thanks for taking the time to expore my world here.
i will answer your questions now if i can

Very interesting thread, thanks for taking the time to post about your adventures. Makes a guy appreciate what he has at hand. Some of the differences are eye and mind opening. I did a lil wikipedia and google searching going through your pages to see just what I was looking at.

If the oregon chainsaw pants are too hot, then get a set of chaps. Looking at you cutting in sweatpants makes me twitch. Like watching a kid fall on concrete, you know its going to hurt eventually. yes, good point,i am in the process of buying new work wear from husqvarna which are both strong and very light.

Working in that mud must be tough. You say you are selling wood all the time, but I would have to think about doing the cutting now, and waiting til it dries up, whatever that means there, and then trucking out all the wood at once. yep again a good observation from you,most of the people here stock up them selves for winter this time of year,in fact all year round they phone people like me and buy the wood and season it themselves,as you know anyway ASH firewood and what i have here burns great anyway and does not need to be seasoned.

Do you mix your gas and oil in advance, or always pour in the gas and then pour in the oil into the tank? You won't get accurate measurements and your paper cup is going to wear out or collect dirt eventually.

of course i always mix minimum 5liters at a time in a gerry can with 100mill of husqvarna oil,always more accurate.


Just FYI for us guys here, the land mass of Ireland is 31,520 square miles, or about the size of South Carolina. Michigan is 3 times as large as the whole country of Ireland, and we have the same population. The population density is 190 people per square mile, or what we would call the suburbs. Roughly 50% of the population live in the cities. Total population is 6.1 million. It is considered the most de-forested country in Europe. For comparison, the US population is 313 million, and 82% of the population live in the cities.


yes america is just massive compared to our small island


What we consider brush and leave out in the woods or burn as scraps, you are hauling in and selling as firewood. Just about anything under 4" diameter gets left behind by most wood cutters. Its a big difference, but I can see why you would be hauling it in, if people need it to burn and there is nothing else, you have to put it to use.

well if you saw along the way most of what i am cutting so far is small trees and mainly clearing a way to the main forest ahead,i mentioned some where along the way that in the center of this farm lies the ruins of an old house,around here is a huge woodland of ASH and douglas fir (maybe scots pine) later here i will be working on very large trees,some of the largest in ireland in fact
no point leaving these behind either,it's all good wood!



I am curious, do you have public lands there? We have vast amounts, millions of acres of lands set aside and open to the public. You can camp or explore at leisure, and cut wood on many of the lands with a simple permit. I am guessing that most everything there is private property, and you would have to be fairly wealthy to own land.

yes there is a lot of public land here it's not all private,but any public land is belong to either the council,forest companies,or government,but yes there is a lot of public land too,but as you say 60% is privatly owned.


Thanks again for posting up and good luck with your cutting. Its been a pleasure seeing another part of the world, through a common interest of a chainsaw.

yes,thanks for posting and thanks for the intrest and it is good to relate to other likeminded arborists in the big smoke
:msp_thumbup:

 

[logger 12345]

small update here:

ok so i have mentioned that my now 9 month old 365special which i am delighted with,well i was talking about trading it towards a 560xp xtorq, well now i can say with confidense and after the shop owner clairfying it to me that this saw can only take a 20" bar and chain,i'm afraid this is no good to me because i will be felling some very large trees and my 365 is a powerhouse and pulls the 24" with athority, the 365special can take a 28" bar and chain, so i have decided to wait till sepetember this year for the 562xp to hit the market here then i may upgrade to that as it can take the 24" B/C.

so for now i will continue to work with my much loved 365special. who knows i may even keep it!!

 

[BroncoRN]

small update here:

ok so i have mentioned that my now 9 month old 365special which i am delighted with,well i was talking about trading it towards a 560xp xtorq, well now i can say with confidense and after the shop owner clairfying it to me that this saw can only take a 20" bar and chain,i'm afraid this is no good to me because i will be felling some very large trees and my 365 is a powerhouse and pulls the 24" with athority, the 365special can take a 28" bar and chain, so i have decided to wait till sepetember this year for the 562xp to hit the market here then i may upgrade to that as it can take the 24" B/C.

so for now i will continue to work with my much loved 365special. who knows i may even keep it!!

What about 372xp? 385, 390, or 395?

 

[logger 12345]

yeah of course all excellent saws,unfortunatly i have never tried any but i can only imagine how good they are.

thing is the 365 is more than i would ever need in terms of size,only reason i am going for one of the newer xtorq 562xp is that they are more economical and more envoirmently friendly and less fumes around me when i am working.


other than that i would mpost deffo keep the 365sp

 

[BroncoRN]

yeah of course all excellent saws,unfortunatly i have never tried any but i can only imagine how good they are.

thing is the 365 is more than i would ever need in terms of size,only reason i am going for one of the newer xtorq 562xp is that they are more economical and more envoirmently friendly and less fumes around me when i am working.


other than that i would mpost deffo keep the 365sp

Is your 2 cycle mix that foul smelling? Why not buy some US 2 cycle via ebay or the web and try that out?

 

[logger 12345]

Is your 2 cycle mix that foul smelling? Why not buy some US 2 cycle via ebay or the web and try that out?




no it's fine only i don't like the smell of the saws in general,not good for the health when you are around them a lot.
my saws are ran on 100mill to 5 liters on the husky oil,that is the husqvarna reccomendation so the mix is actually quite
lean,the 365 just produces a lot of exhaust gases anyway,it's just me really and i like to be around less fumes.
seems in ireland and uk at the moment people are gone this way with outdoor 2cycle machinery,sort of gone health concious,i think maybe in the states regulations maybe not as bad and the health aspect of chainsaws not considered as much,it's just
from what i have seen here too not many want nor care to wear masks.here in ireland even the home owner now uses
aspen fuel,i still use the petrol pump mix as it's cheaper.

they say the new xp range is up to 20% more fuel efficent which is quite impressive!

 

[BroncoRN]

Is that mask you wear for particles or fumes? Makes sure you check that out.

 

[johncinco]

Thanks for the feedback. I asked about the mix because your one pic looks like you are pouring 2 stroke oil into the gas tank out of a paper cup. Maybe I was looking at it wrong. I look forward to the big Irish trees in your future.

 

[ECHO-Echo-echo]

Heck I didn't even know you had trees in Irland.....LOL

Using a 365 for cutting cookies...really?

I go out to the garage and start my saws up just to smell the fumes....Love that 2 cycle smell. I quit using hand saws just to get the smell, not because chain saws are easier.....LOL.......:hmm3grin2orange:

 

[Stihlman441]

Is your 2 cycle mix that foul smelling? Why not buy some US 2 cycle via ebay or the web and try that out?




no it's fine only i don't like the smell of the saws in general,not good for the health when you are around them a lot.
my saws are ran on 100mill to 5 liters on the husky oil,that is the husqvarna reccomendation so the mix is actually quite
lean,the 365 just produces a lot of exhaust gases anyway,it's just me really and i like to be around less fumes.
seems in ireland and uk at the moment people are gone this way with outdoor 2cycle machinery,sort of gone health concious,i think maybe in the states regulations maybe not as bad and the health aspect of chainsaws not considered as much,it's just
from what i have seen here too not many want nor care to wear masks.here in ireland even the home owner now uses
aspen fuel,i still use the petrol pump mix as it's cheaper.

they say the new xp range is up to 20% more fuel efficent which is quite impressive!

If the saw fumes are a problem for you i suggest you get away from that Husky dino 2 stroke oil and find a fully synthetic one to replace it,no smoke,less fumes and smell and better for your saws.
I have notice in your vids the 365 sound to be running on the rich side,more fumes ect.
Cheers :msp_thumbsup:

 

[logger 12345]

yeah it could very well be on the rich side but carb is none adjustable and has the caps on the needles,so
i will let it as is...it runs well anyway,but as you say could be a little rich.


cheers!

 

[rburg]

The version of the 365 that we have in the US now is the xtorq. It should have less fumes and be more fuel efficient, but I don't know if this model is available in Ireland. It is also a little more powerful.

 

[logger 12345]

rburg

The version of the 365 that we have in the US now is the xtorq. It should have less fumes and be more fuel efficient, but I don't know if this model is available in Ireland. It is also a little more powerful.




wow,you guys have a great selection of chainsaws there compared to here!!!!

any pics of that 365xtorq??

 

[drkstaunton]

you are a little like me when i am felling trees you take the easiest felling cut to suit the direction of lean on the tree, and as long as it's safe and it works why the hell not!!! if you went by felling rules you would bring in the back cut more level and closer to the bottom hinge cut,anyway as i say you are probably doing what suits each tree and it depends on which way trees are sitting and leaning,either way it seems to be working out quite good for you and you have lots of time to get the hell out of the way after doing the cuts. keep it up.
P.S if i were you i would keep that 365special,awesome saw,i bet the new saws are softer

 

[rburg]

The 365xtorq replaced the 365 special here.The compression release is in the top of the cylinder instead of the side of the cylinder, and the cylinder itself is 70cc instead of 65cc. I am not sure the dealers I have talked to even know there are differences in the 2 models.

 

[wyk]

Just FYI for us guys here, the land mass of Ireland is 31,520 square miles, or about the size of South Carolina. Michigan is 3 times as large as the whole country of Ireland, and we have the same population. The population density is 190 people per square mile, or what we would call the suburbs. Roughly 50% of the population live in the cities. Total population is 6.1 million. It is considered the most de-forested country in Europe. For comparison, the US population is 313 million, and 82% of the population live in the cities.

The population density is a bit misleading. You are including Northern Ireland, which has a slightly different population structure than the Republic Of Ireland(which is 27,000 sq miles), with more cities per capita(and as much as I will take heat for it, much of this is due to the UK's influence on Northern Ireland both politically, culturally, and immigration-wise). About 45% of the ROI population is in Dublin area itself. The rest are in Cork. Outside of those the populations get very sparse rapidly. The population density of the ROI is 168/sq mi, which puts it slightly below Michigan's 174/sq mi. I assume they consider some of the smaller villages cities in that stat you looked at. Outside of some villages/towns, and cities, Ireland has a lot of unpopulated farm land. In fact, outside of Dublin and Cork, Ireland can appear relatively uninhabited. The metro population of Dublin is nearly 2million, and this is not including many satellite cities just beyond the pale(where we get the term, btw). Cities such as Kildare, Celbridge, Leixslip, Lucan, Maynooth, Wicklow, et al. These are all within 50-60 miles of the city center of Dublin, but are not counted in the metro area figures being fully detached and autonomous councils, many in neighboring counties. Thus a huge amount of Ireland's population is nearly a stone's throw from Dublin itself. Leaving very little to populate the countryside westwards. The ROI has a population of 4.5 million in total. Cork supposedly has nearly half a million in the metro area. Limerick has over 150,000. Galway has about 80,000 in the metro area. These are the 4 highest populated areas of Ireland. You will see more population along the eastern seaboard than the interior.

Compared to the likes of Oregon, Washington, and Alaska - Ireland has no trees

Yes, I have visited all the cities I've mentioned. Travel in Ireland isn't nearly as easily facilitated as it is in the US. They do have superior public transport. But it is very slow outside of the major cities if you can not catch the train that only goes between major metroplexes, and they do not have the huge autobahn-inspired freeway network we have. This has stung me over and over as I would look at a map or gps or google and assume 150 miles is going to take me 2 hours. In practice, it has taken me nearly twice as long on occasion.

I actually love Ireland for it, though. I love that it feels untouched in places. I love that it seems to be held in time much more so than any other place I have visited. I don't mind stopping on occasion to let a farmer move their flock. Or to dodge a cart. Perhaps it's me sentimental in middle age. But I admire a country that hasn't changed drastically as we have.