Perhaps some heavys need to be assembled for a confiscation/liberation operation. I'm semi joking
I second this.I'm just gonna say it...
Most of us will be in tears if you wreck that saw infact most of us would do anything to save 1.
Sacrilege doesn't even begin to describe this man.
Take mr Norton's offer before it's no longer on the table.
You're not going to get any help here trying to do what your doing to it.
It's like giving you the hammer to smash a 125 in front of us and its quite shocking you can't see it.
Please see sense and help save some history instead of destroying it. The history we all hold very close to our hearts.
Please for gods sake please
I have run 125's a bit in big wood and hard work doesn't scare those saws either, having both 125 and 395 I can tell you which I'd pick for milling. For non production falling and especially bucking is where a 125 really shines in today's world. Personally I find 125's much better than 088 Stihls for most jobs, however milling is tough (richer fuel setting and a bit more oil in the mix) on saws and I'd want a saw I could get parts for easier than an old Mac unless i were only making a few cuts here and there. I think a decent 125 will bring $800 - $1000 on Ebay and a decent 395 can be had for close to that. I'm ok n Portland and would offer to come down and help you but we all have to wait for this virus crisis to end.I have not really run a saw like this however hard work does not scare me. Looking at some of the big wood I have to cut I don't think there is much options with the budget I'm on.
Indeed.Be sure to post some pictures when you get it set up and then some when you have it working.
I'm glad to see you got those BP's Mark.Some packages arrived this week.
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Now I have a bunch more dirty old saw parts to clean up. I actually had that 650 on the floor up on the bench earlier in preparation for a good going over then I remembered the boxes in the back of the F150.
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Right away I realize I will need to find or fabricate some additional points covers, that one is actually broken already.
If Eberhard drops by, please send me some photos of the fabricated cover on yours as I did not get any photos when it was here.
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I'm glad to see you got those BP's Mark.
I can appreciate you and others feeling this way as I know it is much harder for someone outside the USA being able to get a saw like this. Heck I don't really live that far away from where is was made.I'm just gonna say it...
Most of us will be in tears if you wreck that saw infact most of us would do anything to save 1.
Sacrilege doesn't even begin to describe this man.
Take mr Norton's offer before it's no longer on the table.
You're not going to get any help here trying to do what your doing to it.
It's like giving you the hammer to smash a 125 in front of us and its quite shocking you can't see it.
Please see sense and help save some history instead of destroying it. The history we all hold very close to our hearts.
Please for gods sake please
As someone who has used bigger saws you know it can be different. I agree with you big time on the use of richer fuel setting and a bit more oil. The air cleaner cover has a sticker pointing this out right on it. Some people have the option of more then one saw right now I don't. It sounds like both saws have about the same value unless the saw is re-built. This saw in on its first life. Yes it is slower to rebuild so what. Yes the McCulloch saw has a gas tank not designed for milling and the same is true with the factory air cleaner and oiler. There is a reasonable amount of power to work with for milling for a 5 ft bar setup.I have run 125's a bit in big wood and hard work doesn't scare those saws either, having both 125 and 395 I can tell you which I'd pick for milling. For non production falling and especially bucking is where a 125 really shines in today's world. Personally I find 125's much better than 088 Stihls for most jobs, however milling is tough (richer fuel setting and a bit more oil in the mix) on saws and I'd want a saw I could get parts for easier than an old Mac unless i were only making a few cuts here and there. I think a decent 125 will bring $800 - $1000 on Ebay and a decent 395 can be had for close to that. I'm ok n Portland and would offer to come down and help you but we all have to wait for this virus crisis to end.
Don't worry as some lucky soul is going to make a confiscation / liberation down the road......lol. Heck there is a lot of people who love this type of saw for bucking on the internet. The saw is made for cutting bigger wood and not lugging around for other lighter use. I would like to enjoy the saw first bucking and milling.Perhaps some heavys need to be assembled for a confiscation/liberation operation. I'm semi joking
I use a Pro Mac 700 every week for my job , so I understand and definitely appreciate the muscle and power of older saws , my Homelite super 1050A also accompanies me to work. I drop dangerous trees for the State park service, so no easy ones.I can appreciate you and others feeling this way as I know it is much harder for someone outside the USA being able to get a saw like this. Heck I don't really live that far away from where is was made.
The important thing to realize that this is a powerhouse saw that was made for cutting big wood. The saw has already seen this kind of use and is holding up very well. I also removed the years of sawdust and gunk that was not helping the saws cooling system and will get some more use out of it. I will even try to line up the parts needed for its next life to pass along for someone else to enjoy it.
A newer plastic saw is not the same as this classic all metal saw. Sure sounds a lot different as well. The saw was made for use and not collecting dust somewhere. Anyone who uses one will feel that very quickly when they feel the raw power of the chain being pulled through the wood. It is something to experience in ones hands rather then talk about it.
The original owner was glad to see the saw sold to someone who is going to use it. The saw still has a number of lifetimes left in it yet. The saw will still look good after my use of it and I will get some enjoyment out of it.I second this.
Bucking, yes by all means please enjoy it for that, but milling more than a few cuts?Don't worry as some lucky soul is going to make a confiscation / liberation down the road......lol. Heck there is a lot of people who love this type of saw for bucking on the internet. The saw is made for cutting bigger wood and not lugging around for other lighter use. I would like to enjoy the saw first bucking and milling.
So you are another who understands that these bigger saws are to be used with a lot of respect treatment every time the saw is being used. I have been around the block a fair amount and also understand this. The inherited problem is part of the experience if one can keep on top of it. I have no real choice at this time and I'm glad to stay on top of it each and every time I run the saw. The wood I want to cut is second growth. I will not touch true old growth unless the Forest service will let me and that is not likely. Oregon still has some patches of 6 - 8 ft trees in some spots.I use a Pro Mac 700 every week for my job , so I understand and definitely appreciate the muscle and power of older saws , my Homelite super 1050A also accompanies me to work. I drop dangerous trees for the State park service, so no easy ones.
That being said my saws are meticulously cleaned and cared for because they're not replaceable in the respect that they are in the best shape in the current condition of my care . Old saws are always inherited problems when purchased either by age or use so when I use them I keep this in mind.
I respect your point of view and enthusiasm to use that great saw because I believe that they are meant to be used . That being said I think you are just making your life harder trying to use that saw for a purpose it wasn't intended for, but hell I put a 650 Holley carburetor on 6 banger so everyone has their own learning curve I guess.
That saw was designed for big timber fallers in every respect.
Side load gas and oil ? Would be nice milling a 30' 40" wide slab.
Care to point out what the issue is? Peak temperatures?Bucking, yes by all means please enjoy it for that, but milling more than a few cuts?
Don't forget the saw has all ready seen use in milling and bucking.Care to point out what the issue is? Peak temperatures?
As someone who has used bigger saws you know it can be different. I agree with you big time on the use of richer fuel setting and a bit more oil. The air cleaner cover has a sticker pointing this out right on it. Some people have the option of more then one saw right now I don't. It sounds like both saws have about the same value unless the saw is re-built. This saw in on its first life. Yes it is slower to rebuild so what. Yes the McCulloch saw has a gas tank not designed for milling and the same is true with the factory air cleaner. There is a reasonable amount of power to work with for milling.I have run 125's a bit in big wood and hard work doesn't scare those saws either, having both 125 and 395 I can tell you which I'd pick for milling. For non production falling and especially bucking is where a 125 really shines in today's world. Personally I find 125's much better than 088 Stihls for most jobs, however milling is tough (richer fuel setting and a bit more oil in the mix) on saws and I'd want a saw I could get parts for easier than an old Mac unless i were only making a few cuts here and there. I think a decent 125 will bring $800 - $1000 on Ebay and a decent 395 can be had for close to that. I'm ok n Portland and would offer to come down and help you but we all have to wait for this virus crisis to end.