McCulloch Chain Saws

[cpr]

Great pic of the 1206 cpr - looks awesome. 'Injudicious pump settings' - I was tied up with Cummins years ago, and quite often owners had to give up warranty due to their fuel pump settings. When you came across a pump without its security wires and lead seals you knew what may be around the corner. Great fun though running some of those beasts - enjoyed watching startup when a great cloud of black smoke roared its way out of the exhausts!

Thanks for the photo,

Chris.

Thanks Chris. Last time I drove this tractor, it was still on the lot at Van Paemel's with a bad exhaust valve. I really wanted it and had the $$$, but no place to put it under roof having been newly married. Anyhow, Ed Shoobridge (pictured) bought it, stripped it and meticulously restored it. It is bone stock except for fresh bearings, valves, seals, gaskets, etc. and a fresh 320cc RoosaMaster, .093 lines, 5-hole .020 over injectors, and a 3LM466 turbo. It can be dialed back to stock hp or cranked up to around 350 as it was yesterday. I can't thank Ed enough for the chance to lob it down the track. I lacked time to steal a glance at the boost gauge during the run, but by the end the EGTs were a hair below 1400, yeah she's a runner. I'm no longer disappointed I didn't buy her, she's in great hands and I am grateful to Ed for indulging me.

 

[CM76]

A great story - and happy to see that it is being looked after. It is always nice to see things from yesterday being taken care of - no matter what they may be.

350 is great horsepower, and EGT's of around 1400 are right up there. She was definitely working. A 'lob' down the track is a big understatement! Do you know the Knox family of 'Country Girl' (Sassy Engines) fame? I have dealt with John and Rodalyn in the past.

Regards,

Chris.

 

[cpr]

A great story - and happy to see that it is being looked after. It is always nice to see things from yesterday being taken care of - no matter what they may be.

350 is great horsepower, and EGT's of around 1400 are right up there. She was definitely working. A 'lob' down the track is a big understatement! Do you know the Knox family of 'Country Girl' (Sassy Engines) fame? I have dealt with John and Rodalyn in the past.

Regards,

Chris.

Never personally met Rodalyn, John, or Brian, but am quite familiar with the history of the machine. The Jostock crew are friends and are not only currently leading the GN MOD points with Brian's help, they feed my Mac addiction with their shipping container graveyard of parts saws. J & S Repair is an eccentric playground whether you're into Macs (Terry Sawgle shakes his head and smiles every time I throw a faded yellow heap on the counter to haggle over), mower parts, or alky ingesting blower motors.

 

[heimannm]

And now for something completely different...

Well maybe more to the title of this thread anyway. I had a little time as I was making my way home from Memphis this week and got to stop by to see Chainsawmanxx (Jacob). Very nice young man living in a more "relaxed" part of the show me state. I dropped off a couple of parts so he could continue on a D-36 project, and in honor of my visit he finished putting together his newly acquired 1-43 and we took it out and put it in some wood. Later on, for the sake of comparison, I let him try the PM700 I carry in the truck as often as I can. This is the one I picked up a couple of years ago and an Iowa GTG from the Valek Brothers for a very reasonable price.

Here is Jacob showing the delicate touch needed to put the carburetor back on the 1-43, and his own approach to starting the saw. Note the "coiling" to build up the energy needed to rip that starter rope out.

After a few sputtering attempts he let me give it a try over a log and the saw was running, sometime age and experience can succeed where youth and energy are not quite enough. I will not reveal my secrets just yet.

First up, the 1-43 in the cut, followed by the PM700

And now the PM 700

Jacob and his dad have a business of low impact logging, certainly there are plenty of trees in the S.E. corner of Missouri.

Mark

 

[heimannm]

They have a big shop area, used to be some sort of paper mill. Just getting the saw equipment moved in now.

Jacob and his girl friend showing off the collection in process.

Don't have a starter handle? No problem...

The 1-43 looking good.

The sun was in the wrong place to get any photo's of the horses as I was leaving, perhaps he will share those with us when he can. By the way, you have to be careful when working around big horses or they will make you limp (note the crutch in the first photo of the shop above).

That's it for now, connection speed is making me crazy.

Mark

 

[stinkbait]

They have a big shop area, used to be some sort of paper mill. Just getting the saw equipment moved in now.

Jacob and his girl friend showing off the collection in process.


Don't have a starter handle? No problem...


The 1-43 looking good.


The sun was in the wrong place to get any photo's of the horses as I was leaving, perhaps he will share those with us when he can. By the way, you have to be careful when working around big horses or they will make you limp (note the crutch in the first photo of the shop above).

That's it for now, connection speed is making me crazy.

Mark

Let me know if you're ever in central VA. I'd love for someone to come by and see my little collection.

 

[rwoods]

Periodic starting/storage

As CAD has devoured my judgment and I have found myself with more and more MACs, I would like to know from those of you who have a few and actually expect them to run whenever you grab them, just how often do you crank them between uses, or do you just store them and hope they'll fire off when their day arrives? For those who store them, do you store them dry or topped off with fuel? Thanks, Ron

 

[stinkbait]

As CAD has devoured my judgment and I have found myself with more and more MACs, I would like to know from those of you who have a few and actually expect them to run whenever you grab them, just how often do you crank them between uses, or do you just store them and hope they'll fire off when their day arrives? For those who store them, do you store them dry or topped off with fuel? Thanks, Ron

I have to admit that I'm very bad with this. I have a lot of really nice running macs. They are sometimes neglected and I tend to leave fuel in them. I have always used stabil in my gas and I believe that it has helped my situation greatly. Knock on wood, my running macs continue to run. I always let them warm up and check for four-stroking before using them though, just in case something has happened to them during storage.

 

[promac850]

As CAD has devoured my judgment and I have found myself with more and more MACs, I would like to know from those of you who have a few and actually expect them to run whenever you grab them, just how often do you crank them between uses, or do you just store them and hope they'll fire off when their day arrives? For those who store them, do you store them dry or topped off with fuel? Thanks, Ron

Storing... my 850 is topped off with mix. It now has a special nail in the workbench, where I gently rest the chain on while the main body of the saw actually rests on the surface of the workbench. It is tilted at about a perfect 40 degrees. Doesn't leak fuel out this way anymore.

I take her outside every couple of weeks and fire her up and check her over. Take a little whiff of the mix in the tank to make sure it doesn't smell stale. If it does, I'll siphon it out and pour fresh mix in.

 

[rwoods]

Thanks, I am just curious as I gear up for the Fall. Thanks to AS and the internet, I have gone from two "work" saws to ten. I have had no storage problems with the two which I usually top off when I am done. I juggled 5 saws last season without too much difficulty by rotating through them. Ten will be a challenge as three are about the most I can comfortably take at a time. They get little use during the off season and some get no use. Ron

 

[Warped5]

Thanks, I am just curious as I gear up for the Fall. Thanks to AS and the internet, I have gone from two "work" saws to ten. I have had no storage problems with the two which I usually top off when I am done. I juggled 5 saws last season without too much difficulty by rotating through them. Ten will be a challenge as three are about the most I can comfortably take at a time. They get little use during the off season and some get no use. Ron

Ron - I am currently at two 'cutters' and will go no higher than three. I now take them along with 1 - 2 'guest' saws when I go cutting and try to cut enough so that all get their work in. If I need to, I have 2 friends who will allow me to come over and hack my way through their wood piles. (When I take my 10-10A, I usually aim the exhaust at the yard with 2 REALLY obnoxious Border Collies. I LOVE dogs, but really hate those two; they just WON'T SHUT UP.)

 

[promac850]

Alright guys, while I go out to get some parts for various projects (mostly non chainsaw related, like the carb for that little pressure washer) just for chits and giggles, I am going to stop by a machine shop and see what a quote will be for a run of clutch drums for the 790 would be... they will be set up for large spline rims...

Anyone have any interest?

Otherwise, I'm just gonna look at a run of five or so for myself. Probably gonna have to pay out the ass...

Oh well, it's gotta get done one way or another. If I have to go this way, I guess I will.

I've looked for one of these drums with the rim splines for several months on feebay and numerous other sources, but nothing has turned up. I just cannot keep up with all of the posts and listings all the time, every single day.

Also, tomorrow, I will post pics of the clutch drum that I currently have off of the 790, I tried researching the part number but nothing came up as to what pitch it is. It's something like 58 something something something. Not mentioned in my IPL... have posted the number a couple of times in this thread but it seems no one can say what pitch it is.

Gonna see what the ******* creamsickle dealer near me charges for 73DL loops of RSC. I gotta have some spares on hand, especially considering the fact that my neighbor had two trees where the 850 will be needed to drop and buck them. They charge out the ass, so I ain't gonna be surprised if they want something like 50 bucks a loop. Whoever owns that place is shrewd, but there is nowhere else close by to get RSC, which many claim is the best...

If their prices are stupid, I'll go to the Husky dealer nearby and get loops of Husky/Oregon chisel or semi-chisel chain. Probably will be much cheaper there, and I might bring the shop guys some donuts... maybe they got some saws for me already.

 

[rwoods]

Ron - I am currently at two 'cutters' and will go no higher than three. I now take them along with 1 - 2 'guest' saws when I go cutting and try to cut enough so that all get their work in. If I need to, I have 2 friends who will allow me to come over and hack my way through their wood piles. (When I take my 10-10A, I usually aim the exhaust at the yard with 2 REALLY obnoxious Border Collies. I LOVE dogs, but really hate those two; they just WON'T SHUT UP.)

I really enjoy cutting wood. And I love using the late model MACs. But I don't really enjoy working on them. MAC or no MAC, I always take two saws as I work alone quite often. I "justify" having so many MACs by the simple fact that if you use them you will eventually wear out or break some hard to come by part. Double the saws doubled the work life sort of thinking. I am trying to talk myself into letting some go but when I last tried that I sold three only to turn around and buy six more. Ron

 

[rwoods]

73DL loops of RSC. I gotta have some spares on hand, especially considering the fact that my neighbor had two trees where the 850 will be needed to drop and buck them. They charge out the ass, so I ain't gonna be surprised if they want something like 50 bucks a loop. Whoever owns that place is shrewd, but there is nowhere else close by to get RSC, which many claim is the best...

If their prices are stupid, I'll go to the Husky dealer nearby and get loops of Husky/Oregon chisel or semi-chisel chain. Probably will be much cheaper there, and I might bring the shop guys some donuts... maybe they got some saws for me already.

You better go count as your 28" bar is going to be either 92 DLs or 93 DLs. Get it wrong and your S***l dealer picks up on your attitude, you might just get stuck with them. Ron

 

[Warped5]

I really enjoy cutting wood. And I love using the late model MACs. But I don't really enjoy working on them. MAC or no MAC, I always take two saws as I work alone quite often. I "justify" having so many MACs by the simple fact that if you use them you will eventually wear out or break some hard to come by part. Double the saws doubled the work life sort of thinking. I am trying to talk myself into letting some go but when I last tried that I sold three only to turn around and buy six more. Ron

If you have this 'Mac Multiply' problem issue, run some of the 'opportunities' past me. I can help! :cool2:

 

[Steve NW WI]

Alright guys, while I go out to get some parts for various projects (mostly non chainsaw related, like the carb for that little pressure washer) just for chits and giggles, I am going to stop by a machine shop and see what a quote will be for a run of clutch drums for the 790 would be... they will be set up for large spline rims...

Anyone have any interest?

Otherwise, I'm just gonna look at a run of five or so for myself. Probably gonna have to pay out the ass...

Probably a LOT more than you even suspect. Lots of machining to get those pretty splines in there, along with spinning the drums and welding the two parts together.

Gonna see what the ******* creamsickle dealer near me charges for 73DL loops of RSC. I gotta have some spares on hand, especially considering the fact that my neighbor had two trees where the 850 will be needed to drop and buck them. They charge out the ass, so I ain't gonna be surprised if they want something like 50 bucks a loop. Whoever owns that place is shrewd, but there is nowhere else close by to get RSC, which many claim is the best...

If their prices are stupid, I'll go to the Husky dealer nearby and get loops of Husky/Oregon chisel or semi-chisel chain. Probably will be much cheaper there, and I might bring the shop guys some donuts... maybe they got some saws for me already.

See Ron's note above.

Also, S###l chain isn't as much better as they charge for it. Get ya some Oregon LGX and be happy with change in your pocket. Big bars seem to attract stump duty as well, so when ya get a chance, pick up some semi chisel loops as well - I like the cheap Woodland Pro stuff from Baileys. Oregon last I checked only had 3/8 semi chisel in safety chain.



Be warned, MacHeads: I'm starting to tinker again, spent some time in the shop tonight puttering on a Homey C-5. Once that's running, a couple McC's are next in line. I'll be askin stupid questions left and right!

 

[dieselsmoke]

Saw Chain

On this side of the Rocky's Dealers usually charge $1 per inch of bar length, for 3/8" pitch. Go Bailey's and get some Oregon LGX, or Woodsman Pro. Kyle, I have a 28"er on my SP-80 and I went with 93DL, for ease in installing the chain befor it streches. At half life I expect to take a link out to bring it back to 92DL, which is what is recomended, IIRC. See Mc Bob's site for an accurate DL count. Have fun with that 82cc's and a sharp chain!! DS

 

[promac850]

Thanks for the insight guys.

I dunno where the hell 73 dl came from. I was pretty tired last night... post was at midnight, lol.

Eh, guess I will be making some orders from home...

 

[rwoods]

Thanks for the insight guys.

I was pretty tired last night... post was at midnight, lol.

...

Kyle, I haven't kept up with your clutch drum woes. This may be what you need: MCCULLOCH D44,300-797,1-70 SPROCKET .404 | eBay

I have a NOS .404 fixed sprocket drum (part # 60919) with 4 shims that will fit a 790 but I hestitate to give it to you as some of your posts seem more like those of a spoiled kid than the posts of a hard working young man trying to find his place in life. Whether you're just having fun, trying to fit in or what not, your demeaning characterization of others (in this instance the unnamed dealer) just drags you down. We all like to kid around and assert the superiority of our chosen brand but in a public forum it is very easy to mis-speak or simply be misunderstood. My attempts at humor and fitting in here have more than once missed the mark but I hope none were taken as disrespectful or insulting. I know your hide is tough and I believe you will take this public rebuke knowing that I, as well as many others, are trying to help you when we butt heads with something you have said. If you're willing to think through what I have said, are willing to let up on your characterizations of the defenseless, and could use this sprocket let me know and it is yours.

Ron

 

[bergman 501]

well i got the old 300 running---ran it for 10min and shut it off to cool down and on restart the recoil spring gave up!! oh well--Aaron did you get the cyl??------------------