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another all yellow . no 250#. but not one has the kill switch on top. i have a few of the 1-40 series saw and they have the switch on the side. and all have the black recoils. since the 1-40 series parts fit the 250 who knows what got switched over the years.
 
Here a few pics of the 1963 owners manual I have. You can see the saw is exactly like the saw I have in every way. A lot of companies mixed and matched parts back in the day to avoid more expense so used what they had already from overstock or altered a mold a bit and used it until it was no good anymore. You can look at saws from the same era in the 1-40, 1-50, 1-60 series and they also have the black covers, small filter lids and switch on top of the case. Anyway I don't have any doubt the saw is original. I have IPL's from these years that back up what I'm saying. It's obvious from certain years they went back and fourth on parts from what we have in print. I still won't call it a Frankensaw because what is in black and white and color backs it up. I would like to find out somehow if possible about the rings though as they have their own part number for 62-63 only so it very well could have these thin rings. I'm going to do a little hunting and see if I can some up with a set of those rings to see what they really are. I was surprised myself when I took the muffler off and saw the thin rings. The only other saw I have with thin rings is a Homelite Super XL-925. Those were apparently used for higher rpm motors as they sealed better at the higher rpm's in addition to having less wear and tear. Only thing is this saw isn't a high rpm saw like the 925 so I guess it was more experimentation.

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Nickolas said:
Here a few pics of the 1963 owners manual I have. You can see the saw is exactly like the saw I have in every way. A lot of companies mixed and matched parts back in the day to avoid more expense so used what they had already from overstock or altered a mold a bit and used it until it was no good anymore. You can look at saws from the same era in the 1-40, 1-50, 1-60 series and they also have the black covers, small filter lids and switch on top of the case. Anyway I don't have any doubt the saw is original. I have IPL's from these years that back up what I'm saying. It's obvious from certain years they went back and fourth on parts from what we have in print. I still won't call it a Frankensaw because what is in black and white and color backs it up.

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Wow, didn't know all that
 
250 super and non

I am interested in older front tank saws and I have several 250's and one S250.:msp_wub:

I don't have much knowledge on what parts belong on what saw, so
I think this is one of the best back and forth descussion in a long time.:rock:

More Please :popcorn:

ODW
 
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another all yellow . no 250#. but not one has the kill switch on top. i have a few of the 1-40 series saw and they have the switch on the side. and all have the black recoils. since the 1-40 series parts fit the 250 who knows what got switched over the years.
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What is up with this saw and the carb adjusting screws on the right side???
 
Out of curiosity if anyone else has an early 250 with the McCulloch flat back primer carb do me a favor and take your muffler off and see if you have the thin rings. These may have been 62-63 only and then were switched to the thick rings for later production saws.


Update ---> After a little digging I have discovered that the 48691 rings are in fact THIN rings. So for 1962-1963 the 250 saw came with THIN rings and in 1964 were changed over to thick rings.
 
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I have not found that filter cover or tall muffler cover on any other saw yet except the sp80. It may have been an option for other saws but my IPLs don't show it.
 
joeymt33 said:
I have not found that filter cover or tall muffler cover on any other saw yet except the sp80. It may have been an option for other saws but my IPLs don't show it.
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I'm thinking that the cover on the 10-10 in the eBay auction may have one of those SP80 covers on it ... or maybe that's an old SP80 tank assembly on that saw .... if so, interesting Frankensaw there .... :confused:
 
I've got a target concrete cut off saw with a big Mcculloch engine powering it. It's been sitting a while and the fuel tank has a lot of scale. It looks decent otherwise. I shot some mixed gas in the carb and it fired up. Looking to trade it for a nice running pro mac 700.
 
Nickolas said:
Here a few pics of the 1963 owners manual I have. You can see the saw is exactly like the saw I have in every way. A lot of companies mixed and matched parts back in the day to avoid more expense so used what they had already from overstock or altered a mold a bit and used it until it was no good anymore. You can look at saws from the same era in the 1-40, 1-50, 1-60 series and they also have the black covers, small filter lids and switch on top of the case. Anyway I don't have any doubt the saw is original. I have IPL's from these years that back up what I'm saying. It's obvious from certain years they went back and fourth on parts from what we have in print. I still won't call it a Frankensaw because what is in black and white and color backs it up. I would like to find out somehow if possible about the rings though as they have their own part number for 62-63 only so it very well could have these thin rings. I'm going to do a little hunting and see if I can some up with a set of those rings to see what they really are. I was surprised myself when I took the muffler off and saw the thin rings. The only other saw I have with thin rings is a Homelite Super XL-925. Those were apparently used for higher rpm motors as they sealed better at the higher rpm's in addition to having less wear and tear. Only thing is this saw isn't a high rpm saw like the 925 so I guess it was more experimentation.

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Ok Nick, sorry I doubted you. I just went through the archives on another site, there were three 250s that were very much like your's. The IPL image shows the older motor with the removable head, suspecting that was an oversight. I have the same 250, with different model numbers, it has 1-50, over 1-60 that has been partially ground off with 250 over stamped. When I got it, it was stripped of many parts, but pretty much new, never had fuel in it. In the batch of stuff (many saws and parts) that it came with, was a box of McCulloch parts, I pieced it together with the best stuff. As luck would have, they were the original parts. I have since then added other items, like the full wraps, yellow drive side cover, airbox cover, HL163, rim sprocket clutch drum, new muffler and rubber grip. I did find the photos of it before I tricked it out.
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It looks like this now. Still looking for a very nice yellow recoil starter for it.
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(Black and yellow) - Yellow

I am not a purest and I really don't like all yellow saws.

If I have a saw down, for some reason, I will blast and paint the

clutch cover, air filter cover, and pull starter, black.

ODW
 
RandyMac said:
Ok Nick, sorry I doubted you. I just went through the archives on another site, there were three 250s that were very much like your's. The IPL image shows the older motor with the removable head, suspecting that was an oversight. I have the same 250, with different model numbers, it has 1-50, over 1-60 that has been partially ground off with 250 over stamped. When I got it, it was stripped of many parts, but pretty much new, never had fuel in it. In the batch of stuff (many saws and parts) that it came with, was a box of McCulloch parts, I pieced it together with the best stuff. As luck would have, they were the original parts. I have since then added other items, like the full wraps, yellow drive side cover, airbox cover, HL163, rim sprocket clutch drum, new muffler and rubber grip. I did find the photos of it before I tricked it out.
s250.jpg

250s.jpg

McC250004.jpg


It looks like this now. Still looking for a very nice yellow recoil starter for it.
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McC250002.jpg
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It's all good. I appreciate your comment and saying what you said. I don't normally make a statement until I have my facts straight. When I get into something I do my research and find out as much as I can about whatever I am into. When someone asks me a question I want to be able to give them an honest answer and also not to sound like a Dumb A** like I don't know what I'm talking about. I don't like not knowing about what I am into whatever it may be. I know more of them will turn up but maybe not all know what they have. Like I said in another paragraph I can see this saw has never been apart. If anyone held it and looked it over they would come to the same conclusion. I have been collecting antiques for years and everyone always tells me I have the eye for detail. I have gotten my hands on many things that other's didn't see for dirt cheap. You have to know about your hobby. It also helps I have been in the parts business and a mechanic for many years so I know part numbers and what to look for among other things.

Anyway I really like these early 250 saws. The black and yellow color scheme is right on the money. It is a nice contrast against the all yellow saws. More often I see the usual yellow saws and not ones that are from the 62-63 time frame. The thin rings are another factor to determine these early saws. I haven't run this yet but compression feels good. If I think it needs new rings I'll throw a set in as I have a set of thin rings on the way along with other parts and pieces. Looking this saw over I don't think it was used much at all. Still has the original 404 7 tooth McCulloch sprocket on it with little wear. And you can see it just wasn't used much. It's nice to find a saw that wasn't used much and not all beat up like some. I have seen some really nasty saws, machinery and other stuff that was just used and abused. I have always taken care of my things and take pride in what I own. Anyway I have found a model 77 I am going to try and get my hands on now. Will see what happens.

Nick :msp_thumbup:
 

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