McCulloch Chain Saws

[heimannm]

As Joey already noted, the odd cover was used on some SP60 and SP80 saws, the one on e-bay now is actually a 10-10 (600001) according to the tag. I bought another saw from him earlier, had it listed as a D-44 but was in fact a 1-76. I haven't done anything with it yet but seems to have very good compression, according to the stamp on the bottom it has been bored 0.030 over. He offered me that saw for $50 + shipping but I didn't get back to him about it yet so now he has it listed. If it should happen not to sell in this listing, I'll take it up with him on the side.

Nick - I have 6 or 7 different IPL's for 250's including the one Cliff mentioned with the illustration of the Super 250 on the front cover (long, black cover with air holes) but inside the part numbers are all the same for the block (62481) and all show thick rings. If you have an IPL with different information, I would love to have a copy.

I have a late model 250 with the short black air filter cover and black clutch cover and round muffler. It has decent compression but I have not made time to do anything further with it. If I can find it, I will have to pull the muffler to see if it has the thin rings as well.

The 48691 part number is correct for the thin rings in 2.125" bore use in the 1-81HD, 1-72, 1-75 and 1-82, 1-85. My 1-85 really rips, if you have a thin ring version of a standard 250 I would really like to hear how it runs next to a standard 250 with thick rings. What is the block number listed with the thin ring version of the 250?

Mark

 

[thomas1]

Dennis, I can help with shipping when you buy this.

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[heimannm]

Today's project took me in a slightly different direction. Last night Mweba dropped of a couple of boxes containing remnents of a Titan 57, Double Eagle 50, and something called a Pro Mac 43 (not 4300) which bears a striking resemblence to the yellow plastic Eager Beaver I finally moved out a few weeks ago.

Anyway, I decided to do something with the Double Eagle since I don't have any of those. I do have a Titan 50 complete except for the top cover that is in excellent conditon (well, not the fuel and oil lines of course) so I currently have all the parts cleaned up and setting on the bench.

Now I just have to decide if I will put the Titan 50 crank case (with like new cylinder and piston) inside of the Double Eagle clothes, or find a top cover for the Titan 50 and try to locate a serviceable piston and cylinder for the Double Eagle 50 and end up with two of the 50 cc models. I already have two Titan 57's, maybe it's time to move one of those in order to make room for the newcomers.

Mark

 

[heimannm]

Nick's post got me to thinking that I have some electronic IPL's that I don't have duplicated in hard copy so I started searching through the Master 200 & 300 Series IPL that was originally on microfiche.

Sure enough, for 1962 and 1963 model 250 the IPL shows the McCulloch carburetors (380 as well), and the thin rings on the 250 models (again for 1962 and 1963).

As best I can determine, the thin rings were only supplied on '62 and '63 model 250's and none of the 200's, 300's, or Super 250's. This IPL shows all having the long air filter cover, yellow on the 250's and black on the 300's and 380's. If you start digging into part numbers, some are listed with the long covers and some with the short although the illustrations don't agree. Further, some 200 models had the long cover, but according to this master list none of the 250 have a sort cover...

Further research reveals I do in fact have that IPL in hard copy as well (came in the large lot of parts & stuff late last spring) I just haven't gotten all of that information quite organized yet.

I would still like to have a hard copy IPL for the 250 from '62 or '63 showing the short cover and thin rings if anyone out there has one.

Thanks Nick, I learned quite a bit from this.

Mark

 

[Nickolas]

Nick's post got me to thinking that I have some electronic IPL's that I don't have duplicated in hard copy so I started searching through the Master 200 & 300 Series IPL that was originally on microfiche.

Sure enough, for 1962 and 1963 model 250 the IPL shows the McCulloch carburetors (380 as well), and the thin rings on the 250 models (again for 1962 and 1963).

As best I can determine, the thin rings were only supplied on '62 and '63 model 250's and none of the 200's, 300's, or Super 250's. This IPL shows all having the long air filter cover, yellow on the 250's and black on the 300's and 380's. If you start digging into part numbers, some are listed with the long covers and some with the short although the illustrations don't agree. Further, some 200 models had the long cover, but according to this master list none of the 250 have a sort cover...

Further research reveals I do in fact have that IPL in hard copy as well (came in the large lot of parts & stuff late last spring) I just haven't gotten all of that information quite organized yet.

I would still like to have a hard copy IPL for the 250 from '62 or '63 showing the short cover and thin rings if anyone out there has one.

Thanks Nick, I learned quite a bit from this.

Mark

Mark,
Sure no problem that's what we are all here for is to share our hobby interests, pics, information and so on... If it were not for groups like this a lot of information would get lost and nobody would know a lot of what we know. It's good all of this stuff has survived and we have it to reference back to. It just seems like McCulloch did what a lot of companies did and use what was on hand at the time. Could have been demand was high and they were out of the usual part and just used what was available. I was in another collecting field and it was fascinating to what we constantly discovered and what new piece was constantly being discovered that wasn't previously known. So you see my original 1963 owners manual shows the short black filter cover, kill switch on top, fuel cap with welch plug, black starter and clutch cover, etc... At the time that book was printed I would say that was how they were making them.

Ya know it isn't too far in the future and somebody could still be living that worked for McCulloch back in the early sixties that may be able to shed some light on some things we scratch our head about. Nobody will ever accurately know everything about these older saws but we have quite a bit of information to go by. It's just fun to see what you can find out there that's been collecting dust for years and years and gets pulled out of a barn or somewhere else. The guy I got this saw from has had it for years sitting in his barn or garage along with other stuff and just decided to sell it. Got it at a yard sale years ago and never got around to doing anything with it. There are a lot of saws out there doing the same thing that need to be found. I think more and more people dig this stuff out as time goes by. Word of mouth and flea markets and flea bay and local papers and other venues can be used to find relics. All I can say is this damn Yellow fever has bitten me hard. I just wish I had some BIG timber out this way to cut. But there are a few decent size tree's here and there I get to mutilate when the time is right. I got a big cherry tree over at my parents house that I have to fall soon. Actually two of them so my Super 250 and maybe this new 250 will get a workout. I'll let you know about the thin ring version I am kinda anxious to see myself how it compares.


Nickopcorn:

 

[Overtrained]

Dennis, I can help with shipping when you buy this.

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Man that's cool! Would be perfect stored in the back of my jeep, can't believe it handles 8800lbs! What happens when the engine dies mid pull and it don't want to restart?

 

[toosharp]

I have two mac 335's and use them every day for firewood, small felling and windfall clearance in Scotland Hard work, hard place, but tough little saws. Sure, I have bigger huskys etc but love my wee mccullochs

 

[boda65]

Mark

I like your McCulloch themed utility knife, Mark
I think the early ones were all yellow. :hmm3grin2orange:

 

[ckelp]

now thats alot of tygon for one saw :msp_scared:

 

[paccity]

Ok Nick, sorry I doubted you. I just went through the archives on another site, there were three 250s that were very much like your's. The IPL image shows the older motor with the removable head, suspecting that was an oversight. I have the same 250, with different model numbers, it has 1-50, over 1-60 that has been partially ground off with 250 over stamped. When I got it, it was stripped of many parts, but pretty much new, never had fuel in it. In the batch of stuff (many saws and parts) that it came with, was a box of McCulloch parts, I pieced it together with the best stuff. As luck would have, they were the original parts. I have since then added other items, like the full wraps, yellow drive side cover, airbox cover, HL163, rim sprocket clutch drum, new muffler and rubber grip. I did find the photos of it before I tricked it out.

It looks like this now. Still looking for a very nice yellow recoil starter for it.

randy . what style yellow recoil ya want? and and how mutch paint loss is acceptable . some have a sight some don't. or would pics help. and is the switch loc right on yours be cause i have some nice covers also.

 

[ckelp]

randy . what style yellow recoil ya want? and and how mutch paint loss is acceptable . some have a sight some don't. or would pics help. and is the switch loc right on yours be cause i have some nice covers also.

by any chance do you have a cluch cover for a mcculloch 660/650

 

[paccity]

by any chance do you have a cluch cover for a mcculloch 660/650

what other covers will fit. don't have any 660/650's . i think.

 

[Eccentric]

what other covers will fit. don't have any 660/650's . i think.

Fraser that clutch cover is unique to the 650/660 gear drives. That's the GD with the compact gearbox that fits under the clutch cover. Here's my 650. Dave's 660 wore this clutch cover for a short time at the GTG...

 

[paccity]

i'll look but don't think i do. but i'll keep a look out..

 

[homelitejim]

My Amish buddy Levi holding his 660 McCulloch. Actually his name is Justin and I don't think he is Amish but I like to flip him crap.

Happy birthday Justin

The problem with the pick being sideways is my fault and I don't know how to fix it.

 

[Nickolas]

I would still like to have a hard copy IPL for the 250 from '62 or '63 showing the short cover and thin rings if anyone out there has one.


Mark


You got pretty much the same info as I do for your Microfish. I myself would like to have an IPL for 62 and 63 or 64 and don't have either. So yes if anyone has these please forward them our way.

Thanks,

Nick

 

[heimannm]

What is up with this saw and the carb adjusting screws on the right side???

I don't think this question had been addressed yet. Those are not carburetor adjust screws, they hold a bracket/linkage inside the air box to connect a remote throttle when the power head is used on a brush cutter. I have the IPL for the brush cutter but don't have the actual device yet.

I do have a brush cutter on a 35 as well as a dynamite drill and an ice auger on different 35 power heads.

Mark

 

[RandyMac]

randy . what style yellow recoil ya want? and and how mutch paint loss is acceptable . some have a sight some don't. or would pics help. and is the switch loc right on yours be cause i have some nice covers also.

Gosh Fraz. 90-95%, really nice but doesn't need to be NOS, with sight line. You need anything? You got a 60" bar I can do some ####ering on?

The driveside covers for the 650/660s are tough to come by and spendy when found. There is a guy in Orygun that has a few, one is yellow and appears to be NOS, $80 is too much.

 

[heimannm]

now thats alot of tygon for one saw :msp_scared:

If you have ever worked on one of the Titan saws you would know that is about 1/2 of the total amount of tubing you will use getting one back operational again.

Best thing about working on them is getting the old lines off is easy, just pinch them a little bit with a pair of pliers and the lines crumble and fall away...

Mark

 

[Eccentric]

Gosh Fraz. 90-95%, really nice but doesn't need to be NOS, with sight line. You need anything? You got a 60" bar I can do some ####ering on?

The driveside covers for the 650/660s are tough to come by and spendy when found. There is a guy in Orygun that has a few, one is yellow and appears to be NOS, $80 is too much.

Not sure why Dave's 660 was missing the clutch cover when he got it. Fraser has got the bars alright. He's posted pics before. He's got more steel in old Mac/Homelite/whatever bars than what's in a lot full of Toyotas........:hmm3grin2orange: