MS361 Airfilter problem !!! IMPORTANT

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more ladas are sold than feraris... doesnt mean they are better ;)

Uhhhhhhhh whats a Ladas,LOL, got me on that one. As for concrete saws yes Stihl is much better, proven fact and been well known for many years. You don't get 50% of the world market being as good, you got to be better. Oddly most construction outfits consider the concrete saw a throw away item yet they cost over a grand. They go for the one that cuts the longest for their buck and that would be Stihl.

Back to filters though there is one company that I think where you still oil the filter down to make dust stick to it to block off other dust. Not that there is anything wrong with it but it does prove my point about dirty filters working better than clean ones.

I'm with you though, I do like my fliters looking clean but I know its working its best when its got some saw chips and oily sawdust stuck to it.:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
 
I presumed that the referance of stihl > lada was obvious, my mistake I will be clearer next time :)


ok all jokes aside, does stihl really have 50% share of concrete saws? amazing

50% is no kidding, they've held at 50% for many years now. Take into account the all differant brands outthere and you got one taking half the entire world market, not USA market, world market thats a helluva statement others wish they could make.
 
If you go back a few pages I too said I don't even know why they make a snow filter. However in snow conditions where the wood is real damp that filter does work ok. Thing I don't understand is the fleece would too so I agree with Lake on the snow filter, I really see no need for it at all. Stihl must think there is a call for it but as to where or why is beyond me. I myself have two snow filters for the 361 that I ordered by mistake. I will never sell them because I know they aren't meant for use around here. I have to wonder if the dealer that sold the 361 to the man knew of the differance between the snow filter and fleece filter. If not thats a dealer error, not a design flaw of the manufacture. I've never seen a 361 shipped with that filter on it. Did the dealer sell the fleece filter off it and replace it with a snow fliter he ordered by mistake just like I did, him not realising it made any differance, who knows. The poster who started this thread jumped the gun claiming the 361 has problems, its very important he said, he was and is dead wrong. His 361 has a problem of having the wrong type filter on it, thats all.

The big saw pic has a issue, thats obvious. That saw obviously has a problem but I can attest from all the HD fliters I've seen, and there have been 100's of them, I've never seen one allow dust to get past it like that one in the pic. Tells me merely something is wrong and needs to be fixed on that unit. Two saws out millions made does not mean design flaw. If that were the case I have three full orange babies in the back room sitting in oil right now. I feel certain they do not have a design flaw but instead a problem that needs repairing, not a re-design of the entire unit.

Though some may not believe but a air filter works better dirty than one super clean, whether it be small engine or automobile. Once the filter becomes dirty the dirt itself actually helps prevent other dirt from getting through the filter. A prime example of this is a concrete saw. There does come a point where the filter will compact and restrict air flow too much and thats when it needs to be cleaned or replaced. Point I'm making here is those God awfull dirty filters the other camp screams about on Stihl saws are actually doing a better job of keeping dirt out of the engine than those clean ones they are always commenting about. Thats one of the reasons I always sit and laff at that video posted where the guys were covering the saws with chips. Apparently they just don't realise or know how a air filter works and when it works best.

I will admit I probably came on a little strong. I guess you could say dust behind an air filter is a pet peeve of mine. It's like nails on a chalk board, skid marks in new underwear, pop corn kernels in your gums, well, you get the idea. :cheers:
 
Could be, but there are a lot of things that go into saw longevity besides a good air filter.

I'll buy that.. and if by some miracle Huskys' airfilters are better than Stihl's (sure..), but Stihl saws last as long or longer, and if airfilter are material to life then Husky must have inferior enginering in other places. What about the also ran - Dolmar? They last as long as Husky's too...

:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::greenchainsaw:

or.. maybe the airfilter thing is a bit overblown...

Oh... your 034.. it justs gets richer and richer as the filter blocks... protects the saw when users don't maintain their filters ;) Hey.. maybe that's the secret to long liife Stihls!:greenchainsaw:
 
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I'll buy that.. and if by some miracle Huskys' airfilters are better than Stihl's (sure..), but Stihl saws last as long or longer, and airfilter are material to life, then Husky must have inferior enginering in other places. What bout hte also ran - Dolmar? They last as long as Husky's too...

:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::greenchainsaw:

or.. maybe the airfilter thing is a bit overblown...

Oh... your 034.. it justs gets richer and richer as the filter blocks... protects the saw when users don't maintain their filters ;) Hey.. maybe that's the secret to long liife Stihls!:greenchainsaw:
That's like comparing someone with asthma to someone without. Proper air filter design allows for sufficient and peak filtration from new. But that's a different issue. We're not talking about dirty filters, we're talking about dirt behind the filters. I always liked the signature Stihl Tech had.

"Any saw is only as good as the maintenance it receives." I think that's a safe bet to live by.
 
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Leaky airfilters shag the engine the bearings grind out sooner, that's from not cleaning them enough, in those flimsy nylon/plasticy fabric filters a pinhole's enough to gunk the carb, the stiff fluffy type and some metal mesh ones are ok, sponge rubber filters are a pita though
 
That is ya'lls best car?

they are known as one of the best cars to overhaul.

due to the quality of the russian design team, and the fantastic engineering methods, to overhaul all you need to do is as follows:

1. Start at the front bumper.
2. Replace
3. Then replace everything in between the front bumper and the rear bumper *
4. Once the rear bumper is replaced, refer step 1.

viola!

*note, you probably dont need to replace the air filter, as they work better clogged
 
lololol

they are known as one of the best cars to overhaul.

due to the quality of the russian design team, and the fantastic engineering methods, to overhaul all you need to do is as follows:

1. Start at the front bumper.
2. Replace
3. Then replace everything in between the front bumper and the rear bumper *
4. Once the rear bumper is replaced, refer step 1.

viola!

*note, you probably dont need to replace the air filter, as they work better clogged

Nice! Sounds like a easy restore. I'm helping a guy with a 68 Chevelle SS covertible now. I will mention the Lada and see if we can get one..........
 
I can't find one like I'm talking about, but this one is close to being as ugly.

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la la la la lada

looks like every car every cop/kgb drove in every spy movie ever set in russia.

and i wondered why they could never catch up with 007's aston martin in 'the living daylights'.:dizzy:

you folks don't happen to import them to nz do you? you should, looks like a fine ride.:greenchainsaw:
 
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